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03-12-2014 , 12:56 PM
I have been running really good over the past few days playing 2nl and 4 nl. The one huge thing I am doing diffrent is playing what I call micro sessions. 45 min -1hr sessions. I find that this has been working for me and would recommend it for someone who has the following probloms, ADD, tilt issues, frequent headaches, plays great in the begging of a session then spews off at the end. I play 1-2 tables at a time and I no it's not a lot of volume at all, but I work a full time job and don't have a lot of time. I like playing 1-2 tables max due to me being blind in one eye.

Any one else play less volume but have good winning results at micro stakes as a result????
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03-12-2014 , 01:05 PM
I agree that short sessions are much easier to play whether you are playing live or online. What you might try to do is slowly start extending your sessions. This will help condition your mind to be able to play longer sessions with as much focus as you have in your short sessions.
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03-12-2014 , 01:06 PM
I'd call those normal sessions. The whole benefit of playing online is getting to play when you want for as long as you want.

Also, your results are likely not changed by doing this, unless long sessions are making you play worse than normal.
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03-12-2014 , 01:07 PM
Definitely not, 600 hands yesterday and I was 1 BI down, 1400 hands later and I'm 4 BI up.

As you said, you're running good at the moment, just be wary when that run good decides to disappear for a bit.
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03-12-2014 , 02:07 PM
I love short sessions. It generally means things have gone well.

Finished a session after 70 hands a couple of Sundays ago because I was already a few BI ahead. What incentive was there to carry on? Just kept it short and felt great about it.

Course, shortly thereafter I played about 9k hands in 7-8 hours and tilted my tits off, but that just proved shorter sessions are better for me.
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03-12-2014 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bhoylegend
I love short sessions. It generally means things have gone well.

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Course, shortly thereafter I played about 9k hands in 7-8 hours and tilted my tits off
You are showing evidence of a huge mental game leak. Quitting early to lock up wins and being willing to play forever to chase losses is a classic problem. You need to find another method of quitting. If anything, winning is a sign of playing well, being at a good table (especially live). It is probably a small sign and being up is just due to luck in the short run. However, it can be good for your image. You should want to play more when winning.

Chasing losses results in your session results being a bunch of small wins mixed with the occasional massive loss. Think of someone playing gambler's ruin in a -EV game. They'd have the same graph.

Stop doing both of these things and your BR will thank you.

Maybe you're joking, but this is a common problem. If anyone reviews their sessions and sees a strong correlation between session length and results, you now have an opportunity to improve. This is a big disaster for a pro who can't make himself stay when winning early and yet will crush his roll if he gets stuck. Games get built around this guy.
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03-13-2014 , 06:06 PM
I tend to play sessions based on what else is going on. I fit poker in with my other commitments. Or around TV shows. I think you are probably doing better in shorter sessions because you are not getting mentally fatigued
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03-18-2014 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DougL
You are showing evidence of a huge mental game leak. Quitting early to lock up wins and being willing to play forever to chase losses is a classic problem. You need to find another method of quitting. If anything, winning is a sign of playing well, being at a good table (especially live). It is probably a small sign and being up is just due to luck in the short run. However, it can be good for your image. You should want to play more when winning.

Chasing losses results in your session results being a bunch of small wins mixed with the occasional massive loss. Think of someone playing gambler's ruin in a -EV game. They'd have the same graph.

Stop doing both of these things and your BR will thank you.

Maybe you're joking, but this is a common problem. If anyone reviews their sessions and sees a strong correlation between session length and results, you now have an opportunity to improve. This is a big disaster for a pro who can't make himself stay when winning early and yet will crush his roll if he gets stuck. Games get built around this guy.
No, I'm aware that it is a leak in my game, I should play standard length sessions regardless of how they are going. Obviously setting limits on that at sensible points if I drop a certain number of BI.

To be honest, although I take the game seriously, I'm still trying to figure out where I actually stand with the game. The vast majority of my sessions are profitable and that is generally enough for me.

I'm going to try taking it more seriously going forward though so this is one leak I am well aware I have to plug.
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03-18-2014 , 02:49 PM
Trust me, the reason I feel strongly about this quitting leak is that I have it. Live, I'm playing for decent stakes. When up, sometimes I just look down at the stack of chips and think of their real-world value. They aren't clay disks, they are real stuff that could be bought. "How many months could I make my house payment with these?" Then, I have to leave. This leads to horrible quitting decisions, where you leave a great game.

There are also levels of win/loss that you have to break through. Your first day to win $1K, $5K, $10k, etc. Same with losses. I remember my first online day where I lost $1K, it sucked. Later, it just seems standard. Head to the casino, drop $3k-$5k, have dinner with friends, and sleep well. It takes time to get used to that. Gambling money is just a scoreboard, and that money in your box is only useful to buy in to a game.

IMO, this is why so many poker players do the silly degen stuff. You know, cc roulette, flips, and other silly 0 EV bets. They're trying to get used to swings and numb themselves to the fact that they're betting money. Once you burn out the part of you that attaches value to your bets, it is easier to forget quitting issues and thresholds. However, you can also ruin your ability to make normal/sane everyday decisions about money. "I can get a haircut in my room for $200 or I have to drive across town? Heck that's like 2 bets, send 'em up." Normal human beings attach value to money, and it is actually a minus for a gambler. I don't know tons of people who've successfully managed it correctly on both sides.
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03-18-2014 , 03:06 PM
I do that a lot, but I only play live.

I usually swing by the poker room after work. Fortunately for me it's only 5 minutes away from my office.

I play for 1-2 hrs & go.
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03-18-2014 , 06:59 PM
It takes a while to realize it's all one session and that your next hand is your next hand.

Personally, I just sit with the intent to leave at a specific time I've decided before I sit. If the game requires me to stay (i.e., above avg game), then I'll stay until those players leave; if the game turned bad, I'm tired or distracted due to outside influences, then I'll leave earlier. Winning or losing has no influence over this.

It helps to have a box at the casino if you're able to get one. If you never transport cash or chips, then you can never leave the casino stuck - you'll always leave with what you brought with you and your box is holding your chips until you can resume your session.
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03-18-2014 , 07:24 PM
I've just started doing the same thing. I'll take breaks then do another session. So far it's been going much better. I think it keeps me more focused, and when I'll stop I'll go over how I've been playing.
Keeps me from tilting as much and definitely from spewing/bleeding chips.
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03-18-2014 , 07:45 PM
I have a strange mental 'leak', if you can call it that. After a while during a session, I'll have the urge to check the cashier to see how I'm doing and if I'm significantly up more than I thought I'd be I begin to play much worse. No idea why.

It serves me well to quit, even if only for like 30 minutes or so. Psychologically, when I return I consider it a new session.

Usually when I'm down, I'm very aware I'm down but when I'm up during a session it's hard for me to really know by how much.
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03-18-2014 , 08:12 PM
Play till I'm making obvious mistakes or so knackered my eyes are bleeding.
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