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Playing against 20bb short stacks Playing against 20bb short stacks

06-02-2014 , 05:44 PM
What range is best range for stacking off against these types of players.

What about vs tight ss? If i;ve done the math right i need ~42 equity to make the call not including rake. Does KJs fit into this range vs this guy?

OnGame - $0.10 NL FAST (5 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 22 BB (VPIP: 21.25, PFR: 13.92, 3Bet Preflop: 10.34, Hands: 81)
SB: 117.5 BB (VPIP: 34.29, PFR: 8.57, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 36)
BB: 61 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG: 67.1 BB (VPIP: 22.92, PFR: 10.07, 3Bet Preflop: 3.77, Hands: 294)
Hero (CO): 150.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN raises to 9 BB, Hero?
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06-02-2014 , 06:03 PM
You have no fold equity so consider it to be a shove.
He 3bets about top 10% and you need 19/44=43% equity to make a shove profitable.

A range like ATs+, AJo+, 88+ is a good shoving range.
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06-02-2014 , 09:50 PM
Thanks!

Would you include KQs?
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06-03-2014 , 12:07 PM
Well I shouldn't have to answer this question. The answer lies in stove/equilab which you should be able to use yourself.
KQs is probably slightly -EV, especially if you take the rake into account.
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06-03-2014 , 03:53 PM
These guys are actually very straight forward to play against and awful players too, no offense. I was looking at 50nl table yesterday. There were 3 fish playing with over 100bb stacks, and then there's this guy with auto-top 40bb stack
Most of your tough decisions vs these guys have to deal with money less than <40bb. You won't have to deal with 80bb river shove or anything like that.
You just have to figure out stacking ranges outside of the tables. Guy playing with 20bb is always committed after 3-betting. It's the rule of putting 1/3 of your stack in PF -> committed. From what i played on 20nl speed, these guys rarely saw a flop without initiative.
Couple of videos about short stacks that helped me. Be careful, you aren't allowed to have All-in Expert running at the same time with Pokerstars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6EWXiKNZzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgbzqsgYobw
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06-04-2014 , 06:36 AM
After this guy playing nl10 with 22bb stack and with this stats he def a fish.He 3bet tight so you can stove the range and look what equity you have but this is not the whole story,cos rake make your calling range weaker etc.
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