Official Unoffical February Beginners Bank Roll Thread
02-28-2013
, 12:30 PM
These are the types of hands that I need to work on. I figure folding can't be a bad idea, but am I leaving $ behind by doing so, do I raise, probably way behind?
Villian stats: 20 /15 AG 5.2, 3B: 3.9, 218 hands
Villian stats: 20 /15 AG 5.2, 3B: 3.9, 218 hands
Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16285151
CO: $25.20 (252 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)
SB: $9.26 (92.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.72 (107.2 bb)
UTG: $11.89 (118.9 bb)
MP: $6.24 (62.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8
7
UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, BTN folds, SB completes, Hero checks
Flop: ($0.40) 2
6 A (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks
Turn: ($0.40) 5
(4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, MP folds, CO raises to $0.99, 2 folds
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16285151
CO: $25.20 (252 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)
SB: $9.26 (92.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.72 (107.2 bb)
UTG: $11.89 (118.9 bb)
MP: $6.24 (62.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8
7UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, BTN folds, SB completes, Hero checks
Flop: ($0.40) 2
6 A (4 players)SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks
Turn: ($0.40) 5
(4 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, MP folds, CO raises to $0.99, 2 folds
02-28-2013
, 12:44 PM
Yeah my redline is going nuts atm. So many weak regs.
Probably need another lesson in folding: what else could tight passive player have here?
here are his stats and my hud that i'm working on. 5 lines looks bad but all the info is needed. Bottom line is fold to bet f/t/r.
Probably need another lesson in folding: what else could tight passive player have here?
here are his stats and my hud that i'm working on. 5 lines looks bad but all the info is needed. Bottom line is fold to bet f/t/r.
Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16285161
Hero (MP): $2.18 (109 bb)
SB: $2 (100 bb)
CO: $1.34 (67 bb)
BTN: $3.36 (168 bb)
UTG: $3.12 (156 bb)
BB: $2.54 (127 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP with A K
UTG calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, 2 folds, SB calls $0.07, BB folds, UTG calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.26) 4 K 9 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.20, SB calls $0.20, UTG folds
Turn: ($0.66) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $1.90, SB calls $0.72 and is all-in
River: ($4.10) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16285161
Hero (MP): $2.18 (109 bb)
SB: $2 (100 bb)
CO: $1.34 (67 bb)
BTN: $3.36 (168 bb)
UTG: $3.12 (156 bb)
BB: $2.54 (127 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP with A
KUTG calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, 2 folds, SB calls $0.07, BB folds, UTG calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.26) 4
K 9 (3 players)SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.20, SB calls $0.20, UTG folds
Turn: ($0.66) Q
(2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $1.90, SB calls $0.72 and is all-in
River: ($4.10) T
(2 players, 1 is all-in)Spoiler:
02-28-2013
, 02:03 PM
02-28-2013
, 03:03 PM
The limper is a loose passive 46/2/3 over 99 hands, so I reckoned I could steal from him either pre or on the flop. The BB is 9.1/0/0 over 22 hands and this is the first time I've seen him 3-bet. Seeing as he's pretty much an unknown I'm not going to assume he's 3-betting any wider than QQ+, AKo, AKs so I call as I'm IP and for IO seeing as we're pretty deep stacked. I hit a pretty decent flop but end up having to fold to a 3/4 pot bet which leaves me needing equity of 42.59%.
I've since stoved it and against that range I have 41.72% equity so its a good fold. I'm glad I did stove it as I was kicking myself a bit after the hand. BUT, and here's the main point of this post, this is why we should be using Poker Stove when we review our play. I now know that a pair and a gut-shot aren't enough to be continuing in this situation, but if I have a pair and an OESD, or a big combo draw like OESD+FD then I need to call. OR, if it had been a 1/2 pot sized bet that would leave me needing around 34.04% equity to make the call, which I had in this case.
I've since stoved it and against that range I have 41.72% equity so its a good fold. I'm glad I did stove it as I was kicking myself a bit after the hand. BUT, and here's the main point of this post, this is why we should be using Poker Stove when we review our play. I now know that a pair and a gut-shot aren't enough to be continuing in this situation, but if I have a pair and an OESD, or a big combo draw like OESD+FD then I need to call. OR, if it had been a 1/2 pot sized bet that would leave me needing around 34.04% equity to make the call, which I had in this case.
Pacific, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16285421
MP2: $2.71 (67.8 bb)
MP3: $3.10 (77.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $4.31 (107.7 bb)
BTN: $4.10 (102.5 bb)
SB: $4.65 (116.3 bb)
BB: $10.46 (261.5 bb)
UTG+2: $4 (100 bb)
MP1: $4.26 (106.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 9
2 folds, MP2 calls $0.04, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, 2 folds, BB raises to $0.28, MP2 folds, Hero calls $0.12
Flop: ($0.62) T 6 7 (2 players)
BB bets $0.46, Hero folds
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16285421
MP2: $2.71 (67.8 bb)
MP3: $3.10 (77.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $4.31 (107.7 bb)
BTN: $4.10 (102.5 bb)
SB: $4.65 (116.3 bb)
BB: $10.46 (261.5 bb)
UTG+2: $4 (100 bb)
MP1: $4.26 (106.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 7
92 folds, MP2 calls $0.04, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, 2 folds, BB raises to $0.28, MP2 folds, Hero calls $0.12
Flop: ($0.62) T
6 7 (2 players)BB bets $0.46, Hero folds
02-28-2013
, 05:34 PM
02-28-2013
, 05:37 PM
^goodmonth? Doesnt the filtr say oct27 to now?
Well it is s00ted n not dominated as much
Obv folding is the best play there as played
Prob jus dont bet turn.. that might help in that spot.. its a limped pot.. N I HATE LIMPED POTS
Raising
is prob terribad
Well it is s00ted n not dominated as much
Quote:
These are the types of hands that I need to work on. I figure folding can't be a bad idea, but am I leaving $ behind by doing so, do I raise, probably way behind?
Villian stats: 20 /15 AG 5.2, 3B: 3.9, 218 hands
Villian stats: 20 /15 AG 5.2, 3B: 3.9, 218 hands
Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16285151
CO: $25.20 (252 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)
SB: $9.26 (92.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.72 (107.2 bb)
UTG: $11.89 (118.9 bb)
MP: $6.24 (62.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 7
UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, BTN folds, SB completes, Hero checks
Flop: ($0.40) 2 6 A (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks
Turn: ($0.40) 5 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, MP folds, CO raises to $0.99, 2 folds
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16285151
CO: $25.20 (252 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)
SB: $9.26 (92.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.72 (107.2 bb)
UTG: $11.89 (118.9 bb)
MP: $6.24 (62.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8
7UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, BTN folds, SB completes, Hero checks
Flop: ($0.40) 2
6 A (4 players)SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks
Turn: ($0.40) 5
(4 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, MP folds, CO raises to $0.99, 2 folds
Prob jus dont bet turn.. that might help in that spot.. its a limped pot.. N I HATE LIMPED POTS
Raising
is prob terribad
02-28-2013
, 05:44 PM
02-28-2013
, 06:36 PM
oh..
#DATINDUCE
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: $12.94
SB: $27.38
Hero (BB): $33.47
UTG: $16.29
MP: $25.62
CO: $30.18
SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 2 2
fold, fold, CO raises to $0.75, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.50
Flop: ($1.60, 2 players) A K 2
Hero checks, CO bets $1.25, Hero raises to $4.00, CO calls $2.75
Turn: ($9.60, 2 players) 2
Hero bets $6.20, CO calls $6.20
River: ($22.00, 2 players) K
Hero bets $8.00, CO raises to $19.23 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.23
CO shows 9 A (Two Pair, Aces and Kings) (Pre 50%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows 2 2 (Four of a Kind, Twos) (Pre 50%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $58.46
#DATINDUCE
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: $12.94
SB: $27.38
Hero (BB): $33.47
UTG: $16.29
MP: $25.62
CO: $30.18
SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 2
2 fold, fold, CO raises to $0.75, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.50
Flop: ($1.60, 2 players) A
K 2 Hero checks, CO bets $1.25, Hero raises to $4.00, CO calls $2.75
Turn: ($9.60, 2 players) 2
Hero bets $6.20, CO calls $6.20
River: ($22.00, 2 players) K
Hero bets $8.00, CO raises to $19.23 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.23
CO shows 9
A (Two Pair, Aces and Kings) (Pre 50%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)Hero shows 2
2 (Four of a Kind, Twos) (Pre 50%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)Hero wins $58.46
02-28-2013
, 06:47 PM
02-28-2013
, 07:17 PM
Quote:
Goals for February:
15k volume
13,4k, today i would have hit the goal
Grind $60 bankroll -> 4nl.
failed super, super hard. BR 21,75$ after 6,40$ in bonuses
Full utilization of the hud.
Using PT4 trial, 71% done from grinding it. I have a working hud for all stats needed.
More studying on poker, and other non-poker related topics.
studied programming a bit, could have been more. poker wise great month. PF game soon close to perfection, post-flop is the way to go for march.
15k volume
13,4k, today i would have hit the goal
Grind $60 bankroll -> 4nl.
failed super, super hard. BR 21,75$ after 6,40$ in bonuses
Full utilization of the hud.
Using PT4 trial, 71% done from grinding it. I have a working hud for all stats needed.
More studying on poker, and other non-poker related topics.
studied programming a bit, could have been more. poker wise great month. PF game soon close to perfection, post-flop is the way to go for march.
Got a lot better with mental game of poker. Improved the grinder mindstate while reducing any tilting.
Goals for march:
15k hands.
PT4 grinded.
No more downswings!
02-28-2013
, 07:26 PM
02-28-2013
, 08:09 PM
Quote:
Yeah my redline is going nuts atm. So many weak regs.
Probably need another lesson in folding: what else could tight passive player have here?
here are his stats and my hud that i'm working on. 5 lines looks bad but all the info is needed. Bottom line is fold to bet f/t/r.
for me, that hud is far too complicated (for 2nl) just name, hands, profit (maybe) new line vpip pfr 3bet ft 3b new line cbet fold to cbet steal fold to steal should be enough. More than enough really - use pop ups.
Probably need another lesson in folding: what else could tight passive player have here?
here are his stats and my hud that i'm working on. 5 lines looks bad but all the info is needed. Bottom line is fold to bet f/t/r.
for me, that hud is far too complicated (for 2nl) just name, hands, profit (maybe) new line vpip pfr 3bet ft 3b new line cbet fold to cbet steal fold to steal should be enough. More than enough really - use pop ups.
Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16285161
Hero (MP): $2.18 (109 bb)
SB: $2 (100 bb)
CO: $1.34 (67 bb)
BTN: $3.36 (168 bb)
UTG: $3.12 (156 bb)
BB: $2.54 (127 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP with A K
UTG calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, 2 folds, SB calls $0.07, BB folds, UTG calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.26) 4 K 9 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.20, SB calls $0.20, UTG folds
Turn: ($0.66) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $1.90, SB calls $0.72 and is all-in
River: ($4.10) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16285161
Hero (MP): $2.18 (109 bb)
SB: $2 (100 bb)
CO: $1.34 (67 bb)
BTN: $3.36 (168 bb)
UTG: $3.12 (156 bb)
BB: $2.54 (127 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP with A
KUTG calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, 2 folds, SB calls $0.07, BB folds, UTG calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.26) 4
K 9 (3 players)SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.20, SB calls $0.20, UTG folds
Turn: ($0.66) Q
(2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $1.90, SB calls $0.72 and is all-in
River: ($4.10) T
(2 players, 1 is all-in)Spoiler:
Stopped reading there because in my experience, players with a high gap between vpip and pfr *never* fold*any part of the board* so without looking further, did you bluff big and get called by something ridiculous like 85o which paired the 5 a 5AKQJs board?
02-28-2013
, 09:26 PM
