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Originally Posted by zadignose
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In my opinion, most people cannot be winning poker players. I also think it's a terrible trap for many people to believe that poker is a test of intelligence. Intelligence is not enough to ensure success, and many very bright players who are well qualified for other pursuits will never be very successful at poker.
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Wouldn't that mean that a lot of us trying to learn this game are just wasting our time. It's kind of disheartening, but it might be true.
A lot of low stake players (myself included) play poker as means to unwind and have a good afternoon or evening. Sure, turning a profit is a very important aspect of the game, but for many of us it is not the only reason why we play (if it is the only reason why you play, your in for a mighty rough road ahead). This is not to say that money cannot be made on a consistent basis by playing poker, many have proven that it indeed can be done. However, for every person that is successful working up through the ranks and making it 100NL or higher, there are 100's of others that fall well short.
This is because of multiple reasons IMO. First, many players unlike yourself don't put in the time, research, and thoughtfulness the game requires for a player to be successful over the longhaul. Secondly, those that do study and put in the time don't always practice what they are learning (it is one thing to read about ideas and strategy, it is entirely another to be able to use that strategy at a table and make adjustments where necessary). Lastly, many players don't follow bankroll management and as a result cripple themselves when they experience a significant downswing.
I think many online players have an understanding of poker fundementals and have spent quite a little time studying and thinking about their game. I honestly believe however, that when it comes time for them to actively put to use what they have been learning, they fall short and leaks/ bad habits remain.
But to answer your real question, can anyone be a winning player at poker? I guess I have to ask you, what is a winning player? Is it someone who makes thier living at poker? Is it someone who is able to break even or a little above at the lowest stakes? While I am pretty much a break even player for the past 5 years I have been playing poker, I consider myself a winning player because I enjoy the game. I don't risk more than I can afford, and I have never busted because I play within what my roll allows.
Ask yourself what you want to achieve from poker, I think then you will know your answer.