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05-06-2023 , 02:14 PM
Thanks for the input. My Cbet OTF until recently was indeed very high and about the same IP as OOP. I didn’t have a strong checking range. I’m still working on that tbh.
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05-15-2023 , 10:12 AM
Hi guys!

@BotaKtan shared their database and I generated more detailed reports.

I made a small review and maybe you will have something to add or correct if I made a mistake or missed something.

If you are a micro stakes player and would like a review like this for you, feel free to PM me (it's completely free).

1. Results


2. Selection
We don't have a select option on Zoom and I want to show how bad it is for us and motivate you to switch to regular tables.
These are the results when you had a fish at the table with a VPIP of 45%+:

The result says that you play badly against fish, which is not the main thing.

You play with fish at the table 18% of the time. This is a very low indicator.
In poker, the fish are our primary source of money and we should aim to play against them as often as possible.
At best, 82% of your hands just turned your bankroll into a rake. At worst, you additionally lost to other regulars.

2. Results by position

Target win rates by positions:


3. Preflop


3.1 Open Raise ranges look fine.

The results of the open raise in position should be 120bb/100+:


The results of open raise out of position should be 60bb/100+:

But given that you almost always play against regulars I think your results are ok in these spots.

3.2 Fold to 3Bet looks low in early positions and the results in the position look not good.
Should be better than -250-300bb/100 depending on your Open Raise sizings:

But at the same time, the results are better out of position:

Looks like a sampling error, but I would pay attention to it.

3.3 Calls and 3bets

Call from free positions results:

Negative results indicate that you are more profitable to just fold because in this case, your win rate would be 0bb/100.
Use calls in these positions in the right situations, such as when a fish is in the blinds and you expect to win a big pot if you hit the board.
Otherwise, I recommend don't do these calls and 3bet or fold from free positions.

When calling on the SB you have a lot of strong hands that would be more profitable to 3bet:
Spoiler:

When you call a non-premium range on the SB your results are much worse than folding:

Filter:
Spoiler:

In general, the 3bet or fold rule for the SB is even more important because we always play out of position postflop.

It looks like you are calling the BB with the same range against all positions, 20-24%.
This is not quite the right approach. We should widen our calls depending on the position of the first raiser.
Something like 15% vs EP and 35% vs BU.

High 3bets from all positions and it's ok if you do it for exploit. But the results say otherwise.
In position should be 350bb/100+:

Out of position should be 250bb/100+:

So I would recommend 3betting a little less, especially against early positions.

You also need to put in order the ranges of protection on the BB.

For example, on BB vs SB, you don't need to expand your 3bet with hands that you can call better than -100bb/100.
If you're using polar 3bets in these positions, then choose hands to bluff 3bet outside of your calling range, something like this:
Spoiler:

This will expand your overall BB defense and will give your opponents less motivation to expand their open raises.

For postflop analysis, the sample is not large enough.

The main stats look pretty aggressive, that's good.


High Cbet/Fold Flop 70%. This can lead to you being Check/Raised more often.

High Check/Fold on the Turn. But your Check/Raise is fine.
You also have high delay Cbets IP and OOP. This is a good exploit at these stakes.

As a caller out of position, you defend the flop wide and fold a lot on the turn.
It might be worth working out some defense on the flop. Defend the flop a little less to make it easier to defend on the turn.
Float and Check/Raise look okay.

Let's summarize
1. In my opinion, the main reason you don't win is Zoom.
You have everything you need to start winning, but no players you can do it against.
Try to play the same distance at regular tables using a good selection and compare the results.
Yes, at first it will be very boring and not as dynamic as Zoom, but what's the point of spending 165 hours at the tables where you just turn your bankroll into a rake?
Not to mention the spoiled mood, and endless streaks due to the low win rate.

2. Adjust your preflop ranges. Especially BB defense.
Calls from free positions and the SB should be the exception, not the rule.
The Preflop is the foundation without which there will be no correct postflop.

3. Keep working on the strategy.
You have some model of your game. Now focus on individual spots and try to improve your results in each of them, but not all at once.

For example, work on def BB as Caller OOP. Learn the theory, work it out in practice, and only after you feel confident in this spot, move on to the next one.
Improve step by step and enjoy the process.

Good luck!
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05-23-2023 , 03:55 AM
Hi can someone please give me advice on my stats where i need to improve. I am not sure what i am doing here exactly but i am providing a few screenshots of my holdem manager. Also i dont know alot about some of these stats but i am willing to learn. I can add more stats if these are not enough thanks.







I should add that i do know what vpip bb/100 and pfr mean i just dont know more than the basics
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05-26-2023 , 05:48 AM
Here you can find almost all poker abbreviations and terms:
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Can you provide your Open Raises (Raise First in) stats by position?

The sample is small, but a low 3bet stands out.
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05-31-2023 , 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mallow77
Hi can someone please give me advice on my stats where i need to improve. I am not sure what i am doing here exactly but i am providing a few screenshots of my holdem manager. Also i dont know alot about some of these stats but i am willing to learn. I can add more stats if these are not enough thanks.
Hi again!

Some detailed statistics from your database.

1. Low Open Raises from BU and SB. Must be 42-45% for these positions.



2. You have a lot of open calls from free positions (MP-BU) and low 3bets.


Just compare your results when you call and 3bet:


When you 3bet the winrate is 30x higher.

Don't call with hands that are much more profitable to 3bet.

3. Calls on the SB I would completely rule out because we provide the BB with good pot odds to call and often get multi-pot out of position postflop.
Not like a spot where we can make a lot of money. Just use a 3bet or fold strategy on SB.

4. It looks like you are calling the BB with the same range against all positions:


This is the wrong approach. Your defense should depend on your opponent's opening range.
The later the position, the wider our defense should be.

5. You also have very low 3bets on BB and SB:


For example, 3bet BB vs SB and SB vs BU should be 15%, BB vs BU 10-14%.
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You need to improve your preflop model and follow it strictly.
You can use free GTO Wizard (Open Raises and 3bets) preflop solutions as a basis.

Don't be afraid to 3bet wider. Aggressive actions bring you money in poker.
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05-31-2023 , 07:17 AM
Wow I have alot of leaks in my game and at times i thought i was the next Phil Ivey haha. But by your analysis i and what i ve realized myself is that i am calling to much. Also i need to raise more from the button and sb, i attribute this to a bad preflop chart i was using. i don't know why that chart was so messed up but i ll find better ones to use. I am just a little confused as to what my 3 bet range should be. Up until now i have only been 3 betting monsters and people have adjusted to me for that. I am wondering if someone raises before you like utg and you have a good hand always in the hijack, cutoff or button, should you go ahead and always 3 bet them instead of calling? I am a bit confused as to what to do in those positions. Post flop i need to improve on too, i am not aggresive enough i think.

I will imply the 3 bet or fold method now from now on from the small blind. I have a question though, how do i use the gto wizard to study? It seems complicated to me. Thanks for going out of your way to do this for me Slyless it really open my eyes to alot of areas i need to improve on on i appreciate it

Last edited by Mallow77; 05-31-2023 at 07:26 AM.
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05-31-2023 , 08:37 AM
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I am wondering if someone raises before you like utg and you have a good hand always in the hijack, cutoff or button, should you go ahead and always 3 bet them instead of calling?
It is more profitable to 3bet in these positions.
A villain can fold and you win preflop.
If a villain calls, you will be the preflop aggressor in position postflop, which is also a very profitable spot.
Therefore, I would use calls in situations where there is a fish behind us that we want to play with and use hands that are not in the 3-betting range.

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I have a question though, how do i use the gto wizard to study? It seems complicated to me.
I wouldn't use GTO Wiz initially.
All you need is their preflop ranges, but they also need to be tightened a bit for the micro. You can use them as a base.

I think the best acquisition for beginners is Flopzilla. This equity calculator will allow you to create your own ranges, save them, and develop your range thinking process.
Here is a good old video to help you figure out how you can use Flopzilla to improve your game:

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06-17-2023 , 04:07 PM
Hi, 160K hands zoom NL50.






In the first month I won because of the variance?
Any and all advise is greatly appreciated.
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06-17-2023 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Icarus Paradox
Hi, 160K hands zoom NL50.






In the first month I won because of the variance?
Any and all advise is greatly appreciated.
RFI from ep/mp/co/btn seem good/fine

RFI from SB @ 31.2% is much too low, equilibrium rfi is in the 40-45% range and often times people at micros overfold BB and under 3-bet leading you to want to rfi >40% to begin with.

4-5% CC% in MP/CO/SB is not necessarily a leak, but likely one. It's strongly recommended to develop 3-bet or fold ranges vs. opens in most situations when in these positions

Hard to say what your 3-bet % are vs. specific positions based on the stats you've provided, but having an overall 3-bet % of 6.85% is a little low. This is usually due to players being a bit tight in the BB vs X node with their 3-bets, but for you it would also be because you're currently flatting a lot in mp/co/sb as previously stated.

Fold to 3-bet % IP seem quite high, but it depends a lot on the sizings utilized by villains in your population.

Flop cbet is low, flop x/r is low
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06-17-2023 , 07:47 PM
Τhanks Brokenstars!
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06-28-2023 , 05:51 PM
Hello I was wondering if somebody could check out my stats and help me with some of my leaks. If I need to post more information I will gladly edit with more. Jeez I am terrible from the BB.




Last edited by SandwichThief; 06-28-2023 at 06:04 PM.
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06-28-2023 , 06:34 PM
Ah looks like I maxed out my edits. I added RFI which is represented as "UO-PFR%" in driveHUD2

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06-29-2023 , 03:25 PM
Hey all, here are my stats after 14k+ hands of 5nl on Ignition. How am I doing? Would appreciate any help identifying leaks or areas to improve. Let me know if there's any other stats I should share



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06-29-2023 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SandwichThief
Ah looks like I maxed out my edits. I added RFI which is represented as "UO-PFR%" in driveHUD2

I'm not an expert by any means but your cbet looks high (mine is probably too low). This could explain why your NSD is higher than your SD line - maybe folding out hands you'd beat at SD and getting called by better. But it also looks like you are running bad based on EV. What's your W$SD?
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06-29-2023 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FiveHighFlush
I'm not an expert by any means but your cbet looks high (mine is probably too low). This could explain why your NSD is higher than your SD line - maybe folding out hands you'd beat at SD and getting called by better. But it also looks like you are running bad based on EV. What's your W$SD?
My W$SD is 50.5% I am unsure if that stat is bad or not but its roughly 20% better than what it used to average before I did a coaching session / started investing in poker training tools. I've been trying to work on lowering my cbet by working with the GTOwiz trainer to learn frequencies by repetition.

I think I am becoming nittier the more i study.
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07-04-2023 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SandwichThief
My W$SD is 50.5% I am unsure if that stat is bad or not but its roughly 20% better than what it used to average before I did a coaching session / started investing in poker training tools. I've been trying to work on lowering my cbet by working with the GTOwiz trainer to learn frequencies by repetition.

I think I am becoming nittier the more i study.
Some stats looks strange :

Yours stats -Decent stats
OR MP 15 --- 18
OR CO 19 -- - 27
OR BU 26 -- - 45+
OR Sb 36 -- - 40+

3bet way to much from MP, CO and way to low from BB
WTSD is high
Check/raise flop is to low
4bet is low

Last edited by Psychopala; 07-04-2023 at 12:18 PM.
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03-09-2024 , 07:32 AM
It's time to update this thread a bit.

Today @tdammon shared his results with us and here is a short overview of his base.

I'm sure many members will be happy to offer advice and support to help @tdammon on his journey!

1. Results
Total


Win Rates by position


Table selection (Fish VPIP 45%+)


Despite the suboptimal selection, your results in this sample are impressive.

Your table selection could be improved, as you played at tables with good fish only 35% of the time.

Given the ample selection available at micro-stakes, it's worth investing more effort into finding more favorable tables.

2. Spots

In general, the reliability of these indicators tends to decrease in a small sample size, particularly in 3-bet pots.

3. Preflop

The preflop looks solid except BB calls. It looks like you're defending roughly the same range against all positions.

Take a closer look at your Big Blind ranges. You should consider widening your calling range against the Small Blind's opens.

Additionally, you can incorporate more 3-betting, especially against opponents who fold frequently to 3-bets.

4. Postflop

It may be worth increasing the number of bluffs on the turn and river after cbetting the flop.

In addition, I would be able to bet the flop more often with value and bluffs. Right now your flop checking range looks very protected (Xfold Turn 37% IP and 31% OOP).

Also, consider increasing your Delayed C-bet frequency. This can be an effective exploit at the micro stakes.


Low Folds vs Cbets OOP. You could consider defending less frequently, although upon reviewing your hands, I didn't find any instances where folding on the flop seemed warranted.

Your relatively low preflop calling frequency might influence this.

X/Raise OOP is good, but Raise IP is too low. Also low Float Flop IP.



The sample size for 3bet pots isn't great, but one noticeable aspect is low raises, both in position and out of position.

5. Summarize
Overall, it was challenging for me to identify any significant leaks in your game given your impressive results.

Your strategy in single-raised pots appears quite balanced, perhaps even overly so.

While balance is not a negative, I would suggest focusing more on exploiting opponents' tendencies at these limits rather than strictly adhering to balance.

Based on your performance, I believe your skill level is sufficient to comfortably beat NL10 and be competitive at NL25.

However, there are areas for improvement, particularly in your table selection.

Additionally, consider refining your big blind defense ranges and honing your skills when defending against 3-bet pots.

These adjustments could further enhance your overall game.

Best of luck!
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03-10-2024 , 01:58 PM
Thanks for the review @slyless !

I do find myself checking back a lot of my strong hands thinking V can bluff into me. I'm worried about being exploited when I show weakness, but maybe that isn't a concern against the majority of the 5nl pool.

I am surprised, but happy, to hear that you think I could beat a higher game. Personally, I feel clueless in most spots postflop and feel like the vast majority of my winnings come from fish that show up and 5 bet A7o and get stacked within 10 hands lol.

I will have to work on table selection. Any suggestions for how to quickly identify fish? I have a HUD but it is hard to tag someone with less than 50 hands played and I feel like most fish just donk off a stack and leave.
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03-11-2024 , 07:23 AM
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I do find myself checking back a lot of my strong hands thinking V can bluff into me. I'm worried about being exploited when I show weakness, but maybe that isn't a concern against the majority of the 5nl pool.
If you hold a strong hand, it's advisable to bet. Using weaker hands like TPWK, MP, WP for bluffcatching.

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Any suggestions for how to quickly identify fish?
These players typically have an incomplete stack and frequently limp. Positioning yourself against them is crucial.

Often, identifying them as recreational players doesn't take long, especially after showing a few showdowns.

If such players are absent from the table, it's better to find another one where you have an advantage.
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03-23-2024 , 01:22 PM
Hey everyone!

Today, we're presenting another brief base review of the user @Aergiia, who embarked on their poker journey at the nl5 limit.

If you have any feedback or additional insights to contribute, we're always open to constructive criticism!

1. Results

Total


Win Rates by position


Table selection (Fish VPIP 45%+)

A selection rate of 28% is quite low and could benefit from improvement.
Working on this aspect of your game can significantly enhance your mathematical expectation without altering your overall strategy.
This skill becomes crucial at higher limits, where opponents are more competitive.

2. Spots.


3. Preflop

The Open Raise on SB looks too wide but I think it’s okay because opponents are still not good at defending the big blind at these limits.
Low 4bets. You need 4-bet wider on CO/BU in position (maybe just variance).
High 3Bets on SB and very low 3Bets on BB.
Don't mind cold calls from free positions, but I would use them exclusively in spots with fish.
Otherwise, it's better to simplify your strategy to 3bet or fold, especially on SB where we always play out of position postflop.
Too wide calls on BB against MP-CO and wider against BU. It shouldn't be like that.

4. Postflop

First of all your aggression is too low. You need to increase your aggression on the flop and turn.

Also, you have a high Went to Show Down (the normal value is 26-28); Low Won When Saw Flop (45-49%); Low Won on Show Down (together with the WTSD and WWSF, this can indicate that you play passively and often reach the showdown with weak hands.)


Low flop Cbet and very low delay Cbet on the turn.
You should bet more CBet on the flop, and bluff very wide when your opponent checks twice. This is a very profitable line on micro limits.
Also, your Check on the flop and Fold on the turn looks high.
This means that you are CBetting with a strong range and leaving a lot of trash in the Check range.
This is a vulnerable strategy that allows thoughtful opponents to exploit you.
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High Check/Fold and complete absence of Checks/Raises on the flop.
Low delay Cbet.
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Looks okay. Maybe you can defend less on the flop.
This will allow you to slightly increase the Folds on the flop but lower them on the turn and river.
You have a Check/Raise on the flop and that's a good thing because it's your main defense weapon.
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High Folds on the flop and Low Floats.
BB vs SB is the main scenario in this spot and we need to be able to defend well in these wide ranges.
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3bet pots follow the same trends as Single raise pots.
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5. Summarize
Despite performing fairly well, there are still ample areas for improvement in your game.

1. Enhance your table selection skills, particularly in the 5-max format. This format can add extra rake, so it's crucial to identify where your edge lies. Avoid playing at tables where you don't see profitable opportunities.
2. Refine your preflop strategy, especially in defending blinds more effectively in the 5-max format. Now your out-of-position BB call result is -125bb/100 which is worse than if you just folded all your hands preflop (-100bb/100).
3. Work on your postflop strategy, starting with single-raise pots. Develop a solid plan for barreling in and out of position and improve your defense in BB vs SB scenarios. These adjustments will improve your game in 3bet pots as well.

Keep striving for improvement, and best of luck on your poker journey!
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04-18-2024 , 03:15 AM
Could you please help me to calculate my win rate for 10,000 hands played [Uploading Image...]
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06-15-2024 , 11:08 AM
Hey all, I'm not here to complain about variance but my graph literally looks like it got doom switched since 3/31/24. I have not switched stakes at all - my average buy in has always been about $8 MTT's on ACR. There are PLENTY of donks at that level. Just looking for some pointers or any advice on what I should look at changing in my strategy or even game selection.

Before 3/31/24:



After 3/31/24:





I know my first 14k hands is over a small sample vs the last 44k hands but these two graphs almost look like two different players and I have no idea why other than taking some brutal beats recently.

The only changes I've made to my play style have been to tighten up a little when OOP as I was trying to limit the bleeding in the BB and the SB. Doesn't seem like that has worked. I know this is really a top level view of what is going on but if anyone can offer any pointers on what exactly I should be looking at to try and improve I would GREATLY appreciate it.

Some other questions I had -

Should I drop lower down in stakes?

I don't normally play more than 3 or 4 tables at once. I personally think that I may do better only playing two tables at once as I am able to focus on player tendencies more. The HUD isn't always perfect especially over a small sample. However, maybe I'm just leveling myself.

How much attention should I be paying to the HUD? I always try to factor in VPIP, PFR, and 3bet Freq before making my decisions. Are there any other stats that you all use to make better decisions?

I find that I have trouble continuing on turns/rivers when my opponents start to polarize - especially playing villains with small HUD sample sizes. When should you continue with more middling hands post flop, if ever? I'm trying to improve my red line but that seems almost impossible at these stakes where opponents make more calling mistakes as opposed to folding mistakes.

If you've come this far I just really want to thank you for reading! Appreciate any and ALL help!
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