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03-14-2012 , 08:41 PM
nice, thanks.
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03-17-2012 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by mickl84
Could anybody help me identify and leaks within my game?
Other than loosening up a little, one thing you should work on is your turn/river aggression. You have a 43% agg% on the flop but only 35% on the turn and 25% on the river... meaning that you probably cbet when you miss the flop and give up on the hand pretty often. If you can take down some extra pots by firing a second barrel that'll fix that droopy red line right up.
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03-17-2012 , 06:51 PM
Hey, This is my graph and stats from the last 35k hands, I know its not a big sample but I had another 45k on HEM but my trial ran out, I'm pretty much brake-even over about 80k hands at 2nl, its killing me! I must have some big leaks, so can you guys please tell me what you think....



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03-17-2012 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LC14
I must have some big leaks, so can you guys please tell me what you think....
* You're too tight overall for 6max. 16/9 would be better suited for full ring.
* A lack of positional awareness. Your VPIP UTG and in the BB should be very low, and it should increase as you get nearer to the button. (The exception is SB, where your VPIP will typically be close to your button VPIP if you get opportunities to steal BvB). So your BB VPIP is good and low, but you're playing basically the same 13% of hands in EP and MP. You should open wider in the cutoff and OTB. Get your VPIP in those seats up to around 25% or 30% by stealing with any two suited cards higher than 8, any ace, any pair, or two Broadways.
* Cold-calling a little too often. If there's a raise and a call in front of you, you should generally only be playing monster hands, or small pairs that you want to set-mine with. Trouble hands like AJo and KJo should often be folded, especially if the villains that opened are tight players.

It's impossible to know from these figures, but if you are ever limping, just stop it altogether. Always enter an unopened pot with a raise. If you don't think your hand is strong enough to raise, then fold.
I'd have to see more stats to give any advice on post-flop play. Things like C-bet% and Turn C-bet% would help here.
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03-18-2012 , 11:12 AM
Your W$WSF is really low, you're probably playing far too passively postflop, especially since you win at showdown almost 60% of the time.
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03-18-2012 , 06:48 PM
I play 6-max on stars cash 5nl






i'm losing a lot in the BB but i'm a winning player at the SB. any strategies for the BB play?

How i'm i doing in the rest?

when sould i move up?

i'm currently 4 tabling with a BR of 216 ish. Sometimes, and because of micromillions on joker, i spend a litle trying to make it on the MTT. Before playing cash i was a good MTT player, but now i cannot seem to play an MTT, its very weird to me.. and if i didn't enter in any MTT at all my current BR would be 250 ish..

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03-18-2012 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 2close
i'm losing a lot in the BB but i'm a winning player at the SB. any strategies for the BB play?
How i'm i doing in the rest?
when sould i move up?
i'm currently 4 tabling with a BR of 216 ish. Sometimes, and because of micromillions on joker, i spend a litle trying to make it on the MTT. Before playing cash i was a good MTT player, but now i cannot seem to play an MTT, its very weird to me.. and if i didn't enter in any MTT at all my current BR would be 250 ish..
Almost everyone loses money in the big blind. Very few people make a profit in the SB, so you're either playing that position very well, or being very lucky.
You could probably reduce your losses in the BB by folding at little more frequently. You're 3-bet restealing often, but the gap between VPIP and PFR there would indicate you're also calling fairly often and then playing a pot out of position and without the initiative.
Your overall winrate is excellent (although you've also been running good in called all in situations, so I think your "true" winrate is closer to 8bb/100, which is still very good). Post-flop aggression must be quite high as you have a positive red line. There might be a bit more value in being a litle less aggressive with your monster hands, so that you get paid off on the river, where the pot size is largest.
I think you're probably in great shape for a crack at 10NL. Have a try at that level, but with just 2 tables at first until you've gathered enough stats on the 10NL regs and worked out who are the good players and who are the fish. If you run bad and lose a few buy-ins, go back to 5NL to restore your roll and confidence.
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03-19-2012 , 08:45 AM
I always intend to go through my stats and plug leaks, but when I look at HEM I never know what to look for, eventually I end up back at the tables making the same mistakes over and over no doubt.

Is there any advice anyone can give me on how to get the most out of this software? I've been using it for a while now but mainly just to track winnings/losses, not really making the most of the information available.




Any thoughts on my stats so far? They are all from 2nl 16+ tabling. The last 7k or so playing 4 tables of zoom.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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03-19-2012 , 06:26 PM
Janus, your results are very good, but you could improve them significantly by becoming more positionally aware and by loosening up a little. This is 6max, right?
Your EP VPIP is 13%, and your button VPIP is 17%, with only a gradual widening of your range as you get closer to the button. You should be opening unopened pots with a much wider range in the CO and OTB, as you're probably not stealing anywhere near enough blinds. Villains will tag you as a nit with these stats, so will often fold when you raise pre, even with junk. An open of 2.5bb is usually enough to steal OTB.
Your WTSD on the button is a little high and the W$SD is low. With the benefit of being in position, you should be able to put villains on a range according to the betting action and folding more often on the river when you're beat. If you're calling with a draw and just make a pair on the river, that pair is rarely good. If villain has bet two streets, he's not often bluffing. The button seat should be your most profitable position, so that's where your main problems are.
Your 3-betting and Agg figures look decent enough, so I think you only have a couple of minor leaks. (Too tight pre-flop in late position, and also seeing too many showdowns on the button).

You can run all sorts of filters in HM. Click the LOAD button to see some of the presets and see if they show up anything obvious. Then work your way through the various Reports, looking for Holecards that are constantly costing you money, and also run filters to find more mistakes. e.g. In Filters, choose "filter by street", and choose the river and click on "call". On the button, I suspect you are losing money when you run this filter. When you see the amount you are losing, that should focus your mind into making good folds.
You can also run filters like "Could 3-bet=true, Did 3-bet=true" to see if you have problems in 3-bet pots. If you choose the Holecards report while running this filter, you may find certain hands that keep losing when you 3-bet them. Try calling with them instead.
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03-19-2012 , 07:41 PM
Hello everyone
This is my first post in the forum, and I wish you guys give me opinions on my game.
These stats are from the hands of NL16 and some NL25, played since February.
Of course I lose too much money in the hands of non showdown, can you give me some tips to improve this line?





Any advice would be appreciated.

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03-20-2012 , 01:51 AM
Your red line isn't something you should particularly worry about, as showdown winnings account for the bulk of your profit. Having said that, see this excellent article about improving your stealing and 3-betting light: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...h-baah-637589/

There are no obvious leaks in your stats other than you're too tight in early position, and it seems you're very reluctant to fold the monster hands you play there, as you're going to showdown way too often in EP. When villain raises you and you have an overpair, he can beat your one pair hand (usually with a set). Fold QQ+ when you get raised and you should start making money in seat 1.
Also, since you have a very low c-bet success in EP, despite c-betting 72% of flops, you might like to try check-raising occasionally with overpairs, if you're not already doing that.
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03-20-2012 , 09:09 AM
Hi guys,

These are my stats for the last 10k hands I played on NL5 FR.
My graph is a little swingy, a few coolers & sets over sets.

Do you see any stats I need to worry about?





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03-20-2012 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtySmokes
Janus, your results are very good, but you could improve them significantly by becoming more positionally aware and by loosening up a little. This is 6max, right?
Your EP VPIP is 13%, and your button VPIP is 17%, with only a gradual widening of your range as you get closer to the button. You should be opening unopened pots with a much wider range in the CO and OTB, as you're probably not stealing anywhere near enough blinds. Villains will tag you as a nit with these stats, so will often fold when you raise pre, even with junk. An open of 2.5bb is usually enough to steal OTB.
Your WTSD on the button is a little high and the W$SD is low. With the benefit of being in position, you should be able to put villains on a range according to the betting action and folding more often on the river when you're beat. If you're calling with a draw and just make a pair on the river, that pair is rarely good. If villain has bet two streets, he's not often bluffing. The button seat should be your most profitable position, so that's where your main problems are.
Your 3-betting and Agg figures look decent enough, so I think you only have a couple of minor leaks. (Too tight pre-flop in late position, and also seeing too many showdowns on the button).

You can run all sorts of filters in HM. Click the LOAD button to see some of the presets and see if they show up anything obvious. Then work your way through the various Reports, looking for Holecards that are constantly costing you money, and also run filters to find more mistakes. e.g. In Filters, choose "filter by street", and choose the river and click on "call". On the button, I suspect you are losing money when you run this filter. When you see the amount you are losing, that should focus your mind into making good folds.
You can also run filters like "Could 3-bet=true, Did 3-bet=true" to see if you have problems in 3-bet pots. If you choose the Holecards report while running this filter, you may find certain hands that keep losing when you 3-bet them. Try calling with them instead.
Thanks for the response, I'm gunna spend some time later today going through HEM as its clear I'm throwing money away in a few spots.
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03-20-2012 , 05:55 PM
Hi,

Hopefully posting these not so great stats might help me find some of my more costly leaks. I've been playing 2NL and 5NL and have been winning a little at 2NL but getting beat at 5NL.

2NL Stats:









5NL Stats:








As you can see my 5NL results aren't great, I have dropped back down to 2NL as I want to be strict with my bankroll management.

Even myself looking just now i can see that i have been a little looser in each position at 5NL than at 2NL. I guess that I suffer from discipline issues with 5NL being a little tighter than 2NL so I try and play more hands to compensate for the lack of action?

Any and all comments much appreciated.
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03-21-2012 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Eva90
My graph is a little swingy, a few coolers & sets over sets.
Do you see any stats I need to worry about?
That's a pretty crazy graph, with a sick 3000 hand heater where you must have been running like God.
Pre-flop is absolutely solid overall and you have excellent positional awareness. (The best I've ever seen in BQ).
Two stats that deviate somewhat from typical winning averages are your Flop c-bet, which is a little high at 93% and a correspondingly low WTSD figure.
It seems you might be folding out weaker hands a little too often. While it's great that you take the pot down very often, you're not getting maximum value from calling stations. You might also be betting the flop with air on flops you might be better to check. That is to say, flops where villain is likely to have caught a piece, or has a overpair. Be more careful on flops like JT6 in two suits and baby flops like 552 or 642 if you have AK. Villain is always calling with 88 and 99 and medium suited connectors on those flops, so you'll often be check-folding the turn.
I'd advise you reduce the number of c-bets to around 75%, and/or reduce the size of your bet if you have air. If you pot it all the time, you sometimes bloat the pot when you're way behind. Try betting 60-65% of pot when you whiffed, so you can safely fold for mininmum losses when you get called/raised.

My recommendations come with the usual disclaimer: 10,000 hands is a small sample size. Big wins and losses due to pure luck can account for a large chunk of your overall profit. Having said that, I think you're well on the way to a successful poker career though. Keep up the good work!
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03-22-2012 , 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by sergio_porrini
Hi,

Hopefully posting these not so great stats might help me find some of my more costly leaks. I've been playing 2NL and 5NL and have been winning a little at 2NL but getting beat at 5NL.

2NL Stats:









5NL Stats:








As you can see my 5NL results aren't great, I have dropped back down to 2NL as I want to be strict with my bankroll management.

Even myself looking just now i can see that i have been a little looser in each position at 5NL than at 2NL. I guess that I suffer from discipline issues with 5NL being a little tighter than 2NL so I try and play more hands to compensate for the lack of action?

Any and all comments much appreciated.
Small bump to see if anyone has any comments on my play?

Heading offshore tomorrow and would like some ideas on things to study up on whilst i'm away and can't play poker.

Thanks
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03-22-2012 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtySmokes
* You're too tight overall for 6max. 16/9 would be better suited for full ring.
if 16/9 is too tight, what should it be for 6max?

After taking your advice, my next 4k hands I was up by 12bb however in the last
2k hands, i'm down by 7bb.

What should my opening ranges be?
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03-23-2012 , 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by sergio_porrini
Small bump...
Heading offshore tomorrow and would like some ideas on things to study up on whilst i'm away and can't play poker.
Hi Sergio, I hope you get this in time.

It's really interesting actually. Going through your 2NL stats, there are no obvious huge leaks, but I was thinking "A little too tight pre-flop, and not enough aggression post-flop". Then I looked at the 5NL stats and saw you've improved the numbers for stealing and c-betting, and reduced your WTSD, but somehow you've lost money.
It's kind of a mystery to me.
One thing that you may need to look at carefully is 3-bet pots. At these stakes, I don't think you need to 3-bet more often than 3% of the time you have the oppportunity to do so. There's no need to 3-bet light. All your raises should be for value, and most of the time you're happy if villain calls (i.e. you have QQ+). If other players are very nitty, you should also be inclined to fold medium strength hands when you get 3-bet.
At 2NL, you were folding to 3-bets 46% of the time. At 5NL, it dropped to 43%, so I'd guess you're reluctant to lay down hands like AQ or TT, even when you know you're probably behind/beat. Make a few more disciplined folds when you get 3-bet, as bloated pots that you lose will significantly affect your bottom line.
If you're the one who puts in the 2nd raise, try flat calling (rather than 3-betting) with hands like AK when you're in position, as if you 3-bet a hand like that, a nitty villain will often only continue (typically by 4-betting) with a hand that crushes you. Look at your results for AK and AQ, with the filter "could 3-bet=true, did 3-bet=true" to see if you're losing money.
Run the Report>Holecards, and order them by "Won hand %" and note down any losses with particular hands in the top 25. If you're winning with AQ at 2NL, but losing with it at 5NL, then check the hand histories to see if you can find out why.
Other than that, I can't really see anything that immediately needs to be addressed. Your 5NL losses could be down to variance. If you've not been dealt great hands in good spots, or just had some horrible flops when you've had big pairs, there's nothing you can really do.
Have a nice break and come back ready to crush the games!
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03-23-2012 , 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by LC14
if 16/9 is too tight, what should it be for 6max?
After taking your advice, my next 4k hands I was up by 12bb however in the last
2k hands, i'm down by 7bb.
What should my opening ranges be?
Typically, overall VPIP for 6max should be in the range of 15-21 and PFR in the range 14-20, a good LAG will be opening much more often. (At higher stakes, there are winning regs with 6max stats like 33/25.) 16% VPIP is fine on tighter sites/networks, but a PFR of 9% is too low. Observant HUD users will just think when you raise that "That nit has a monster hand, so I should fold". By raising something like 15% or more, it makes it harder for villains to put you on a hand/range.
I can't tell you specific ranges. I vary mine according to the number and tendencies of the players at the table. Against some villains I'll often fold AQ in early position, but raise 75s on the button, while on other tables I'll open AJ UTG, but only steal with big cards.
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03-23-2012 , 07:31 PM
Thanks for this help, I appreciate it very much! My trial for pokertracker runs out in 30 days, I don't think I would have made enough $$ to buy HEM (My HEM trial has already ran out, I preferred it) Do you think HEM is important at these stakes? or do you think I should keep playing without it until I have made enough to purchase it?
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03-23-2012 , 07:40 PM
Oh and one more thing....table selection?! what tables should I be looking to sit down at based upon stats?
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03-24-2012 , 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by LC14
Oh and one more thing....table selection?! what tables should I be looking to sit down at based upon stats?
High VIP or players per flop, no big queues. Colour codes your opponents as soon as you have enough stats and leave if you don't have an obvious fish of some kind within the 2 seats to your right. Exception, it may be worth staying if there is a complete spewy maniac at the table even if you don't have great position on him. Leave when the fish leave.

In my opinion, it's much more important to have position on a fish than be at a table with a particular VPIP figure.

Also consider leaving if you have an aggressive raiser to your left who is outplaying you or really anyone who is just making life hard for you. There are lots of soft tables, no need to butt heads with someone who tilts you.

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03-24-2012 , 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by LC14
Thanks for this help, I appreciate it very much! My trial for pokertracker runs out in 30 days, I don't think I would have made enough $$ to buy HEM (My HEM trial has already ran out, I preferred it) Do you think HEM is important at these stakes? or do you think I should keep playing without it until I have made enough to purchase it?
PT does just about everything HEM does (and possibly a few other things too). HM2 is a bit buggy anyway, so stick with what you know.
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Originally Posted by LC14
Oh and one more thing....table selection?! what tables should I be looking to sit down at based upon stats?
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Originally Posted by Mr Beer
High VIP or players per flop, no big queues. Colour codes your opponents as soon as you have enough stats and leave if you don't have an obvious fish of some kind within the 2 seats to your right...
In my opinion, it's much more important to have position on a fish than be at a table with a particular VPIP figure.
I completely agree with Mr Beer (inc. the bits I've snipped). A tool I recently discovered that really helps with table selection is http://tablescanturbo.com/
It's very powerful and absolutely free. In the basic format, you can file tables according to VPIP (using the stats from your PT/HEM database), or go after particular fish shown on the bottom of the screen, but there are loads of levels of customisation too. You can set up a scoring system, so that - for example - tables with a high average VPIP, low PFR and AF, fewer multi-tablers and short-stackers (or more if you like playing vs them) will jump to the top of the list. There's even a built-in table HUD, so you instantly know when a table has suddenly gone bad (because the fish left). I absolutely love this app. Table-hopping has never been such fun!
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03-25-2012 , 07:56 PM
I just had my best and worst session ever. I was up by $25! it was great, I was getting ready to turn off. A complete noob then sits at my table with $5, he kept shoving all in after about 10 hands, he shoved, I had KQ so I thought, ey? he keeps shoving. I called, he had 64o, all was going well until he hit a 6 on the river. This put me on major tilt and I added another $5 to the table, he kept shoving, as soon as I had a good hand, I called. I done this 3 times and he won each time, each time I had the better starting hand by miles. This has just killed me! I'm below where I started the session -_-. I finally thought I was making progress but obviously not. ahhhhhh! (Sorry about this, I just had to get it out!!)
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03-25-2012 , 09:31 PM
Even though it's extremely +EV to sit with a fish who auto open shoves and you can pick your calling hands, if it's going to eat your soul to lose several in a row, you can just leave after the first loss. Nanostakes poker is an entirely voluntary activity and you don't need the money to pay your bills.
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