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09-02-2015 , 12:02 AM
Goodday all,

1. When we are on the flop and waiting for the turn, we multiply outs with 2.

What if we are on the flop, my opponent is not all in on the flop and i am reasonably sure there is no betting on later street, so in this case can we multiply with 4 instead of 2?

2. Given that we multiply 4 on flop when all in and multiply 2 on turn when all in, is there such thing as multiply 6 pre flop when all in?

3. In the following screenshot, hero has AhKs. If i want to consider hero's equity to the turn only instead of to river, can i simply divide 24.65% = 12.3% ?


Thank you all.
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09-02-2015 , 12:50 AM
If hero has Q3 on 853, he's beating AK. He doesn't need outs. The villain does. With two overcards, villain has 6 outs twice, which is around 25% equity.
He has about a 12.5% chance of hitting one of them on the turn.
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09-02-2015 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by lummy8
Given that we multiply 4 on flop when all in and multiply 2 on turn when all in, is there such thing as multiply 6 pre flop when all in?
no. if at least for the most obvious reasons
1. nobody has a qualifying hand
2. there are 3 cards on the flop
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09-02-2015 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by lummy8
3. In the following screenshot, hero has AhKs. If i want to consider hero's equity to the turn only instead of to river, can i simply divide 24.65% = 12.3%
This all depends on the card that comes off on the turn...and I did not include suits in any way at all, and excluded the cards that make him far ahead or us far ahead with Q3

examples:

8 = ~22.7%
9 or T or J or 6 = ~17.2%
4 or 2 = ~25.6%
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09-02-2015 , 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by lummy8
2. Given that we multiply 4 on flop when all in and multiply 2 on turn when all in, is there such thing as multiply 6 pre flop when all in?
Think of it as CardsToCome * Outs * 2.

With 5 cards to come and 2 outs, you'd say 5 * 2 * 2 = 20.

An underpair (22-KK) on average only has 18.9% equity against AA because AA can also improve.

Both can make straights, flushes, etc., but it's a fairly good approximation.
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