OK heres an interesting hand, Original raiser had like $60 and stats were 15/15/4 so i didn't even think of re-raising and caller was loose but was a fair savvy player, made some good folds etc


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Hero (BB): $5.50
flanker69 (UTG): $12.95
Karl_Kalkyl (MP): $47.30
Dudestar84 (CO): $25.00
snifter9 (BTN): $26.50
lowlimitplayer (SB): $25.35

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with A Q
1 fold, Karl_Kalkyl raises to $1, 1 fold, snifter9 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.10) 2 Q K (3 players)
Hero checks, Karl_Kalkyl checks, snifter9 bets $1.75, Hero raises to $4.50 all in, Karl_Kalkyl folds, snifter9 calls $2.75

I check and raiser checks, who i was worried about (AK-AA etc) and when late position raises i think he could do that on a Queen which im in good shape and if he has a weak king he might throw it (tho bet wasnt huge) and also if i flat call and spade comes im not getting anythign else in the pot. also i was short and had been struggling to make any hand on this table.

So basically i figured i had some fold equity(K9- (yes this is his range) and was in good shape if he had K J K10 (very in his range)

err youre shortstacking and you didnt ship preflop? Is this one of those intellipoker plays?

Pretty sure you're too short to have any fold equity after the flop here. Karl wiffed, but snifter isn't going anywhere for another $2.75. Also, I think you're pot committed if you 3bet preflop--however if you're going to shortstack, that's usually you're best weapon. You squeeze pre-flop with no implied odds to anyone deep to induce folds.

I don't see anyone with $60 in this hand. Not sure how that would have made a difference in this hand, though.

Shortstackers don't come into interesting spots. Buy-in full.

the reason i flatted preflop is i still had $4.50 after call, $3.10 pot and with AQ i think the only thing calling for $5.50 has a better hand IMO.

and yea mistake the guy did have like $60 but he doubled someone up just before this hand, and he got in good aswell.

Also i hate shortstacking but ive run so bad today its like damage control, KK 7 times all with A on flop and been re-raised

ship this in preflop... as played, hellmuth style your chips in the pot with tptk+nfd.

I did hit flush BTW, and he had K3 (LOOSE)

and yea the all in PF is def heard and will do next time

You have no fold equity over ANY hand that you're behind... folding out worse hands is not what fold equity is about. This hand would be very interesting if you were also ~200 BB deep, but as is the type of reads you're trying to apply to the sitaution, players, etc are all moot. Just ship it.

with this shortstack this is really badly played. you have a big hand preflop so get it arr in and negate being OOP. since you didnt and you hit the flop...you get it in there. bigstacks generally dont respect a shortstack raise so expect to get called by a surprisingly large range.

these are reasons to push btw. dont expect them to fold but if they do you add >50% to your stack without seeing a flop w A high.

This is pretty straight forward.

The pot = $4.85
Your Stack =$4.50

You need 50% equity. Crunch a few numbers. Even if he never folds, and only calls with hands that his this flop then...

Board: 2s Ks Qc


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.311% 53.13% 04.18% 24722 1945.00 { AsQs }
Hand 1: 42.689% 38.51% 04.18% 17918 1945.00 { QQ+, 22, AQs+, KQs, JTs, AQo+, KQo, JTo }

Since you say he is lose and would be doing this with a wider range of hands its an easy shove. It isn't a problem is the original raiser calls because he's not going to have anything better than the above range.

Also running bad isn't really a good reason to play short stacked as it just limits your chance to win it back. And if you are playing short stacked because you feel you aren't playing your A game, then you should probably take a break anyway.

You'll also generally get more, and possibly better quality answers if you post hands in the uNL forums.

if you want to shortstack you really need to learn a few key concepts about it, like the fact that alot of your value comes from shipping preflop when you have the best hand or shoving to get hands to fold that don't want to play against such a shortstack. The only way you don't want to ship AQs pf when your sitting on 20bb's is if the raise comes from a 6/4 player or something insane like that, but even then you might.

Grunch.....



You have $5.50. Easiest shove pre-flop ever.



Judging from this hand you need to move down ASAP and do a complete overhaul on your shortstacking game if that's what you want to do. Or you could work on playing full stacked.


As played w/e....it doesn't matter too much what you do. I'd probably just call though to give the other guy a chance to put the $ in with a weaker hand and give the flop better a chance to bet the turn with a weaker range. Get it in on the turn.

Shoving's fine too....whatever.



Next time shove pre-flop.

Lol, this is so ridiculous. I thank god everyday for sending players like you to the tables.

I thank God everyday that I'm not as big of an ******* as you.

What does you lead to that statement. I honestly think I'm not THAT big of an *******.

Well i did ask this question cos i didn't know what i should have done...

but i guess the way some guys like to be arseholes is ok as well.

btw this is the first week of me playing cash games, and i haven't been playing poker for long at all. And i have made some (small) profit online.

i guess i should just not try and learn at all??

also this is a beginner mistake... what section are we in?

oh dont worry :P