Hi im new to poker am really intrested in it and want to learn and eventually make it my living like Chris Moneymaker did i just dont know where to start


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wait for AA and allin profit

Lol from what i hear AA gets sucked out on alot....is it true about the online poker sites having bots or is it people are just mad tjey cant beat them??

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Screw poker.I just Wanna win the lotto and live p of that. Where do I start?

You're not implying that these questions are related, are you?

AA gets sucked out on about 20% of the time vs a lower pair, 22% vs 76suited, 15% vs a random hand. I'll gladly race with a 60% edge repeatedly. Anyone who needs more than that to get all-in, or who can't handle suckouts, shouldn't play poker. Suckouts are a large reason one shouldn't learn their bankroll management from the movie Rounders.

As for your general question of where to begin, I think there are probably other threads to look at before asking that. Maybe even stickied.

Welcome to the site ... hopefully you can find lots of information here for your poker journey.

Not so sure anyone can 'set out' to launch a poker life like Moneymaker did. If you check his results since he won the ME it's about $90k+ per year with the majority of that being 3 large cashes. He was also probably sponsored into some (or all) of those events and had his travel paid for by Poker Stars.

I'm not going to diminish his ability ... I've definitely not seen enough of it. But when you can find a sponsor to reduce your out of pocket costs along the way it should make playing poker a lot easier.

Where to look to ... any player who has put in the work. One in particular is Jason Koon (or Doc Sands) who studied the game and was VERY disciplined about applying their knowledge.

All of us want to find that lucky break or run of cards that gives us a huge 'sigh of relief' score ... but poker takes work. And the amount of time and the type of work you need to put into it is not something that we can't determine here. GL

Is there anybooks that yall suggest?

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It is very difficult to win a major event, and a lot of variance is involved. Trying to to set out to win the largest tournament in the world is not really realistic. If you want to make a living off of poker, you shouldn't be thinking about the WSOP main, or any of the big main events, but instead how to grind out a living. It isn't easy, and there are a lot of players who have put in a lot of time and a lot of effort who are trying to chase the same dollars that you want.

The key is to understand that
1. It is a process-the game is very complex, and there are a log of decent players out there, so learnng to win constently will take constant effort
2. It isn't easy-expect to put in at least as much effort as a regular job would take, and expect to be working both on and off the table
3. It is unstable-even for good players, you will experience wild swings where you seem to be printing money one week, then lose for three straight weeks. Bank roll and life roll management are key skills
4. It isn't always fun-a lot of people try this because they love poker, and think it will be fun making money doing what they love. They think they will be their own boss, and will have a ton of freedom. This is not the case. You have to play so much, through the highs and lows, you may not love the game. you have to play whenever the games are good, which means weekends and holidays. You have to play a lot, as you don't make money if you aren't playing.

This isn't meant to discourage you, but if you are going to have an honest shot at making a living on poker, you have to understand what it will mean before you even start. Otherwise you will burn out very fast.

https://www.amazon.com/Ace-River-Adv.../dp/0972044221

the Harrington on Hold'em series is pretty good too.

The Harrington on Holdem series is a bit dared but still a fine starting point. Id recommend 'Hold em Poker' by David Sklansky. 'Poker Math That Matters' will give you a good grounding in the maths of the game.

"Where to look to ... any player who has put in the work. One in particular is Jason Koon (or Doc Sands) who studied the game and was VERY disciplined about applying their knowledge."

What was their approach to the game? This is a problem for me at the moment. There is so much information to digest. What is the best was to build a strong game from the bottom up?

Both of those players probably put more time into the game away from the table than at the table. Starting hands, starting position, DISCIPLINE folds ... no tilt. Both of them are tournament players as well for the most part. Tournaments have structure, thus theoretically less variables (perhaps) in opponents tendencies. GL

Where would you start? There are so many resources sites and "poker coaches" out there today that constantly push their products. I would say I am a relatively new player (focus on SNG and MTTs). Can you give some good resources to utilize away from the table.

STTs and MTTs are two entirely different kettles of fish

There is a ton of free information online (like here on this site). While reading the free stuff you will run across the author's name and you can then search for more information from that author.

I can't tell you if books, online information, threads, YouTube, streaming or hiring a coach is best for you. I personally read lots of the books, but I've read 'enough' of them to know what information is 'right' for me and what to set aside as reference only.

I post here to force myself to 'make sense' of my thoughts and see how others react to them ... good, bad or ignore.

It's like school, except you are both the student and teacher so it may be a cloudy decision to know when you are ready to graduate to the next level of information.

Also remember that knowing the information is different than actually knowing how to apply the information in game play. GL

First, lol @ Doc Sands being good.

Second, assume poker is a pastime that you might not lose money at, if you're starting now. You're at least 10 years past the golden age.

What do you mean its a past time and ive been playing heads up with a buddy with play chips he has been playing poker fora long time and im keeping up with him and he is a winning player he just dont play for money

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What makes you think he is a winning player? I'm not saying that he isn't, but if he only plays for play money, then there is no way you could know if he is a winning player or not. Winning play money chips has no relationship to the ability to win money.

In 2003

My roadmap for new players:
- Read a good book. I used to recommend Harrington on Hold'em for beginners, because as I remember it, it introduced me to a lot of concepts I had absolutely no clue about, and set me on the right course to studying the game and learning on my own. But looking back, there is also a lot of rubbish in it. I'm not sure what's recommended now.
- Same goes for the COTW stickies in the Micro Stakes FR forum. A lot of good and a lot of rubbish. Hard for a novice to tell apart. But I still recommend reading them.
- Deposit ~$100 on the site of your choice. Play the absolute lowest stakes. Consider this money gone. You are almost certainly going to lose it. Maintain a balance of play and study. Hopefully you learn from the experience.

Chris Moneymaker mostly made his living through sponsorships. In that regard poker is quite dead and I wouldn't expect that you will make your living like he has.

If you simply want to make your living playing poker, I'd strongly recommend against it. Relative to other businesses, it's not very lucrative and it's much more of a grind.

Moneymaker did not need to make a living from the point he had sponsorships

It's not in Moneymakers DNA to stop playing poker though. If he was going to continue to play poker tournaments then he most certainly needed the sponsorships. Now, if OP is saying that he just wants to bink a tournament one time and never play again then that's another thing entirely.

Im playing freerolls on betonline is there any tips???

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Im using a hud but i barely understand it

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don't pay too much attention to the hud. take notes on your opponents constantly. try to figure out patterns of what they are doing (such as how often they raise preflop and with what, what and why are they betting on flops, things that make sense, things that don't make sense).

eventually after many thousands of hands you should be able to parse through this information and find something meaningful. otherwise you can always join training sites and network with good thinking players virtually anywhere in the world. good luck.