I'm a beginner player, started playing years ago with no real idea, only really this year started to learn about how to actually play from books and lurking on here.

I started to play in a pub league this year, league finished after 20 weeks I broke even a £20 buy in 10-20 players . I've played a couple of live cash sessions as a side game to the same tournament and have won a little. I still make a lot of mistakes but as live is slower I think through the possibilities more.

Online I suck badly, I play a lot worse, I can see it. I don't take time to think and just bash the call button too much I'm going to post hands I think I played badly here for input and try to get better at thinking things through.



I don't know anything about these guys, this is literally hand number 3 since I sat down.

My mistakes:
1. fold pre flop
2. fold to flop raise, maybe don't even bet in the first place.

The all-in call is pretty much the only move that makes sense, everything before it is just idiotic, right? Input appreciated.

Why are you leading the flop in a multiway pot here?

Your not going to get much to fold on that board multiway. You went from seeing a cheap turn card to being charged a lot more to see it.

I would fold pre because you only have one other fullstack in the pot, you are OOP and making flushes is hard...I don't think calling is horrendous or anything but you will probably find it easier to avoid these more marginal situations.

No need to lead flop and you can fold to the raise.

Turn is fine, sorry villain sucked out OTR, JJ?

Anyway, it sounds like you know what your problem is, just slow down and think a bit more. Practice and study is key.

Thanks both, I have to agree, bad play there.



Input on this play, river fold is good?

Hand 1 just c/c flop and x/r turn
Hand 2 is fine I guess

Hand 2

Check fold the flop. You won't getting anything better to fold here often enough for this to be profitable and your bluffing with no equity here. Try bluffing when you have some draws rather than just stone cold bluffing.

River fold is fine. Kx Jx two pair hands etc all beat you. My only problem here is your betting the river. Just check fold.

Look at the texture and ask yourself what kind of hand you honestly expect villain to fold. I reckon you will quickly see he won't fold much.

Hand two (T6), check-fold flop, as villain won't fold often enough on that texture.
Since you did bet the flop and made a pair on the turn, a check-call is just about OK there.
On the river, you made the idiot end of a straight on a 4-liner board. It's no more than a bluff-catcher. Leading out (especially so big) is kind of pointless. You need at least a jack to bet for value.
I would check and either call or fold depending on villain's sizing.
Many of the hands you beat will check back, but at least you get a showdown then. When you bet out, you hardly ever get called by worse (so it's not a good value-bet) but you always get called (or in this case raised) by better. Why bet 20c into 27c if only better hands stick around?

Dwimmerlaike, ArtySmokes. That's a clear leak I am beginning to get a handle on.

I have this thought process that goes.
1. Woop I made my hand
2. Bet like hell for value.

But I don't stop to consider if anyone would call me with worse. I seem to have difficulty going to show down without a big bet.

I have made this mistake in much worse ways by re-raising again and again until we're all in on the river, paying off hands that it should've been obvious had me beat.

Less ego, more plan I think.

When is a good point in this hand to start considering the real possibility that the TPGK is dead? I know on the river I should've folded, that was dumb, do I get away from it earlier?

looking at the first hands you posted, is it really wise to jump up to NL 10 already?

have you beaten NL 2 and 5 at all?

I'm playing everything from 20nl down. Probably not wise as a strategy, but it's definitely fun.

last hand is a fold pre imo.

Zombie has a point, your hand suffers from domination issues, you are facing an early position raise, this is weighted towards hands like AJ, KQ, AK. They hit the same flops as you so you will pay them off, this is an expensive way to learn about kickers.

The flop is a good example of this conundrum, you have hit as well as you are likely to, but you can't be happy about it when MP2 raises.

Also, move down to 2NL or 5NL.

u cud fold preflop, if u didnt, u must bet turn to take a free showdown, if opps calls u on a turn, u must fold on river if they bets.

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sorry for bad grammar, eng is not my native language

No, you shouldn't bet to "take a free showdown". It's fine if villains include some bluffs/weaker hands in their river betting range.
However, you can bet to get value from draws. It actually makes sense if we are planning to call another bet anyway.

Op:
It's true however that you should probably fold pre. I'd call with KJs though.

But postflop, this looks fine. Although river is a pretty thin call multiway. If he's decent, then he has AJ very often on the river but he could be thin value betting with KJs or maybe even QJs.

My thinking on the call pre is that with this raise from this villain I've got him on a small pair. He raises his big pairs higher and every time he's min raise it's been a small pair (turned out to be quad 6s btw). I should've been wary of the 6 and 8 on this board as they were bang on his range here.

So my thoughts were that I'll usually beat small pairs with position, but running 22+ vs JKo in equilab it's 40/60, so call is definitely questionable, I'm currently consistently at 33 VPIP so it's clear I can fold more pre and I think all these trouble hands are a good candidate.

I think I'll fold more of these against raises, even min raises.