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My experience at 0.02/0.05 and what to do next? My experience at 0.02/0.05 and what to do next?

02-22-2010 , 09:58 PM
Hello, I've been playing poker for some months now. In the beginning I lost some money but I pretty fast grasped the thing so to speak, or at least I think so.

I'm playing equivalent 0.02$/0.05$ but in another currency.



The winnings in the graphs should be divided into 7ish, cause it isn't in dollars but Hold'em manager displays it in that.

My stats are the following: 27/7/1.76 (VPIP/PFR/Agg%)

I know very well that these stats aren't the best, especially the pfr. But I still seem to do well. My bb/100 is 25.5. I never buy in for full, mostly for 2/5 of a full stack.

What are your thoughts about this? I belive I should start to tighten up and raise more preflop, maybe getting somewhere 22/18ish? Start to buy in full?
Also, do you think I can be said to be a winner on this level with 13.6k hands? I have run EV-wise.

Thanks in advance.
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02-22-2010 , 10:17 PM
move up bro,ur already up 30 buyins at nl5,u dont improve much when ur opponents are brainless donks.seriously are u running hot or what?u have a huge upswing in the middle and other times ur barely moving up
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02-22-2010 , 10:23 PM
Yes, your stats suck. Buy in full, stop limping, or you'll get killed when you move up.
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02-23-2010 , 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by axxs
move up bro,ur already up 30 buyins at nl5,u dont improve much when ur opponents are brainless donks.seriously are u running hot or what?u have a huge upswing in the middle and other times ur barely moving up
Yeah I will move up when I have 30 buy-ins for 0.05/0.1. At the moment I have 13 buy ins for that level.

I haven't run much over EV and right now abit under.
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02-23-2010 , 06:43 AM
Nice heater... do you just shove TP when you hit?

Buy in full and fix your stats, imo... But I must say, your results are quite ridiculous.
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02-23-2010 , 06:50 AM
Thats a pretty crazy heater for 5NL. You should raise more for sure. When you get to higher limits people start making you pay if you limp and it starts to become less profitable. And generally speaking when you limp in against good players and then suddenly start betting you'll be very transparent and they'll just fold.
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02-23-2010 , 06:53 AM
definitely raise more preflop.
in the begining i also didn't raise a lot preflop, but now i do, and it helps my game a lot
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02-23-2010 , 07:04 AM
It seems you know what you need to change, start playing good poker or you are going to get crushed once your heater is over. Stop limping and buy in full.
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02-23-2010 , 08:19 AM
keep playing how you are since it works for u. those criticising you i guarentee arent winning as big as you are. take a shot at the next limit up if you feel comfortable.
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02-23-2010 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sharkbaitOHH
Nice heater... do you just shove TP when you hit?

Buy in full and fix your stats, imo... But I must say, your results are quite ridiculous.
I almost never shove tbh, maybe in the beginning when I start with equivalent of 3 dollars to build up, but not after that if I'm not very sure I have the best.

And no, I'm not going to be crushed at this level after the heat is over since all others play like 40/0/0 or 70/50 etc, so I definately have edge. But I will start to buy in full and raise abit more often. What stats should I aim for in 5-mans aka SH?
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02-23-2010 , 09:21 AM
I just wonder if you play proper starting hands. If you can improve on that it might help in the long run.
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02-23-2010 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jackwilcox
keep playing how you are since it works for u. those criticising you i guarentee arent winning as big as you are. take a shot at the next limit up if you feel comfortable.
I dissagree.

The reason a lot of good players play a style that involves a lot of preflop raising in relation to vpip is because it is extremely profitable to do so.

Its important to know why it is profitable to take full advantage of it, imo.
You get to have initiative and reduces the number of players to the flop which greatly increases your chances of taking down the pot either preflop or on the flop.

If you're HU with someone, 2/3 of the time they won't have hit anything and will just fold to your bet.

But if you limp, you rarely get HU to take advantage of this.

And obviously this way you get to build the pot. If you're playing with 100bb stacks and you have a monster its almost impossible to get your whole stack in by the river without massively overbetting at some point, so we build the pot early to make it easier to build the pot later if you were to hit big.
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02-23-2010 , 09:27 AM
Contrary to popular opinion I do believe OP's style does work at these stakes.


16.2/6.3/1.55 ((VPIP/PFR/Agg) 87,949 hands. bb/100 is 10.46

Last edited by agarn; 02-23-2010 at 09:30 AM. Reason: forgot winrate
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02-23-2010 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by asdf1339
What stats should I aim for in 5-mans aka SH?
You shouldnt aim for a specific stat.
You should play tight in the early positions and a lot looser on the button and cutoff.

And because you're a beginner its best to limit yourself to a tight starting hand range. You can add in hands as you get more comfortable with postflop play.

This way you also learn how to be patient and gives you time to observe the other players and their tendencies. Think of ways to exploit them and then apply it!
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02-23-2010 , 11:27 AM
Big difference from 27/6 and 16/6. His style might work at 5nl but won't as he moves up
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02-23-2010 , 12:56 PM
Just saying U can win with a bigger then normal gap (vpip/pfr) than is normally considered
optimal at higher stakes. To quote BG's advice when playing against maniacs.....simply "Call more, Raise less". I realize this doesn't work as you move up but it does seem to work at 5 nl.
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02-23-2010 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AdrienD
I dissagree.

The reason a lot of good players play a style that involves a lot of preflop raising in relation to vpip is because it is extremely profitable to do so.

Its important to know why it is profitable to take full advantage of it, imo.
You get to have initiative and reduces the number of players to the flop which greatly increases your chances of taking down the pot either preflop or on the flop.

If you're HU with someone, 2/3 of the time they won't have hit anything and will just fold to your bet.

But if you limp, you rarely get HU to take advantage of this.

And obviously this way you get to build the pot. If you're playing with 100bb stacks and you have a monster its almost impossible to get your whole stack in by the river without massively overbetting at some point, so we build the pot early to make it easier to build the pot later if you were to hit big.
if he plays off his image then theres a lot of factors that will make up for this though.
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02-24-2010 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jackwilcox
if he plays off his image then theres a lot of factors that will make up for this though.
Hahahahaha image...
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