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My dealing with Sklansky bucks My dealing with Sklansky bucks

08-06-2010 , 07:56 AM
I play SSNL SNGs and try to get a handle on my variance in all-in situations. So I started to keep a table of my all-ins when reviewing sessions. Here's how I would go about the calculation. Lets's say I moved all in with 1,500 chips and get called. I am a 60% favorite.

(1,500 * 0.6) - (1,500 * 0.4) = 300

So even if I lost I earned 300 Sklansky bucks. What I now do is totalling the actual amount of chips I lost/won in those situations and comparing them to my total Sklansky bucks to see if I run ahead or behind of my luck.

Two questions here:

A) Do you think there's any merit in going this extra mile? I actually feel much better after a bad beat session just looking at the figures and knowing I was doing the "right" thing.

B) I calculate my Sklansky bucks solely on the amount of chips I moved all-in with while disregarding any dead money that's already in the pot. However, on http://www.pokerlistings.com/strateg...lansky-dollars they calculate the winnings and losses based on the entire money on the table (e.g. money bet on earlier streets). What do you think what way is more appropriate to measure one's luck?
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08-06-2010 , 08:16 AM
I'm not positive but I dont think Sklansky bucks applies to SNG's. I think it is a mainly cash game application. You can be a 60% favorite in an all in but early in a SNG I'm guessing this isn't the best play.
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08-06-2010 , 08:30 AM
At least you should count it in bb's.
Or else you'd count a 60% situation with 11000 stack at 500/1000 much more than the 2900 stack at 150/300.
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08-06-2010 , 10:25 AM
There is no need to do this you're just wasting your time and probably convincing yourself how bad you run.

If you're +EV you're +EV, you don't need to check through your history to see how unlucky you are.
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08-06-2010 , 11:04 AM
Good point about the cash game/counting in BB situation. I'm gonna take this into consideration.

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Originally Posted by OreosAndMilk
If you're +EV you're +EV, you don't need to check through your history to see how unlucky you are.
Fair enough, but how do I actually get to know if I am +EV in my all-in game? My short term results won't tell me, but Sklansky points will. So it might actually help me to adjust my hand selection.
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08-06-2010 , 02:45 PM
My problem with what you're doing here is because of diminishing returns on the value of chips (ICM, basically). If you're slightly +Sklansky Bucks you could still be making the wrong plays because of the way sng prize pool equity works (and in bigger sngs early game the ICM tax concept).

The SB concept is designed for cash where each chip has identical value as opposed to sngs where the values of a given stack are constantly varying even if the stack size stays the same.

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Originally Posted by eroock
Good point about the cash game/counting in BB situation. I'm gonna take this into consideration.

Fair enough, but how do I actually get to know if I am +EV in my all-in game? My short term results won't tell me, but Sklansky points will. So it might actually help me to adjust my hand selection.
No, calculating SB won't tell you if you're +EV, just how you're running. Range v range calculations need to be made in order to determine your EV, and this is impossible to do to an accurate extent. What I mean is this: if you jam KK and run into AA pre the hand will be -SB but getting KK AIPF is clearly +EV.
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