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10-17-2010 , 02:10 PM
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Well, eh. I don't know actually should my question be in beginner threads. I play poker for a year. Offline cash, offlin small tourneys, and a lot of online cash. And I am total looser. I won a lot of MTTs offline, and some of online. I play aggressive poker, have good reading abilities, but i am total unlucky. 80/20 for me is 50/50, 70/30 is 45/55/ So many badbeats. When I go all-in i am totally sure, that i have better hand. But often i have badbeats.. Should I play more patient less aggressive poker? Or just give up, consider myself as a looser and play homepoker?
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10-17-2010 , 02:17 PM
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i am total unlucky. 80/20 for me is 50/50, 70/30 is 45/55/
I can guarantee you 100% this is not true.

The reason you lose is because you are not very good at poker. The reason you do better in live poker is that live poker is much, much easier. And if you are playing online the fields are much, much larger which for whatever reason new players never consider. Playing a 2000 player online tournament is not the same as playing a 100 player live tournament.
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10-17-2010 , 02:27 PM
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If you are getting it in good every single time and just getting unlucky, then just keep playing. Eventually your luck will turn and you'll win it all back.

What's more likely to happen is that you realize that you're not getting it in good as often as you think you are, and you're just not playing a winning poker game. Swallow your pride, be honest about your game, read these forums, study your game, and try to improve - this is how you become a winning player.
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10-17-2010 , 02:30 PM
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OP - do you have HEM/PT3 ?

If you do, check your database. See how many times you win when you're favourite / times you lose. See how often you suck out on someone when they actually had the better hand.

If you don't then get one of them and start collecting your data.
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10-17-2010 , 02:34 PM
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I can guarantee you 100% this is not true.

The reason you lose is because you are not very good at poker.
Agreed. But even in live grind, I loose. I wanted to say another thing. (Sorry for bad English, btw). When I have upstreack (max. 2-4 days) 80/20 is 80/20 and 70/30 is 70/30, but most of my time in poker i have statistic that wrote before
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10-17-2010 , 02:36 PM
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Agreed. But even in live grind, I loose. I wanted to say another thing. (Sorry for bad English, btw). When I have upstreack (max. 2-4 days) 80/20 is 80/20 and 70/30 is 70/30, but most of my time in poker i have statistic that wrote before
Got any statistics to back up your statistics?
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10-17-2010 , 02:40 PM
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If you are getting it in good every single time and just getting unlucky, then just keep playing. Eventually your luck will turn and you'll win it all back.

What's more likely to happen is that you realize that you're not getting it in good as often as you think you are, and you're just not playing a winning poker game. Swallow your pride, be honest about your game, read these forums, study your game, and try to improve - this is how you become a winning player.
thank you, sir. I am reading a tons of poker literature, watching gygabytes of video, have own tricks, always try to improve my pla, but when moron calls with Q8o all-in after 2 players all-in for 3/4 of his stack an badbeats my KK, don't want to play poker. Or when ur 2222 in stud becomes beaten by straight flush on 7th street...
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10-17-2010 , 02:41 PM
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OP - do you have HEM/PT3 ?

If you do, check your database. See how many times you win when you're favourite / times you lose. See how often you suck out on someone when they actually had the better hand.

If you don't then get one of them and start collecting your data.
That's why i opened this thread
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10-17-2010 , 02:41 PM
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Got any statistics to back up your statistics?
of course have HH from my play.
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10-17-2010 , 02:47 PM
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most of my time in poker i have statistic that wrote before
No, you don't. What you have is this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

With a lot of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

And a healthy dose of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_bias
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10-17-2010 , 02:50 PM
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No, you don't. What you have is this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

With a lot of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

And a healthy dose of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_bias
good linx, i'll read 'em
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10-17-2010 , 02:57 PM
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thank you, sir. I am reading a tons of poker literature, watching gygabytes of video, have own tricks, always try to improve my pla, but when moron calls with Q8o all-in after 2 players all-in for 3/4 of his stack an badbeats my KK, don't want to play poker. Or when ur 2222 in stud becomes beaten by straight flush on 7th street...
Because of the high volume of hands you're able to play online versus live poker, you're going to encounter more bad beats per day/week/hour than you would in live poker even though the frequency per 100 hands will be the same.

Hands like this are going to happen, and they seem like they happen more often online - you need to know they're coming, avoid tilt and play good poker.
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10-17-2010 , 03:21 PM
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Because of the high volume of hands you're able to play online versus live poker, you're going to encounter more bad beats per day/week/hour than you would in live poker even though the frequency per 100 hands will be the same.

Hands like this are going to happen, and they seem like they happen more often online - you need to know they're coming, avoid tilt and play good poker.
you misread my thread, sir.. I have same story in live poker
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