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05-30-2008 , 07:54 PM

Guy986

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Situation: NL 50

AKoffsuit in middle position, and you raise the standard 4times BB. The button calls and now its 1vs1. The flop comes 3,7,J with no suit possiblity. You C-bet 3/4 the pot and now the button minimum reraise you. What do you do?

This has happened to me today 2 or 3 times now. Do you call, fold or reraise? I always assume that the mini reraise means the villain has something very good and wants you to call. Now i'm not so sure anymore. I dont know anyone who is half decent that does the mini reraise. It allows your opponent to get extremely good pot odds. Why? What does it mean? What do you do?

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05-30-2008 , 09:16 PM

Draidin

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min raise = donk ass

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05-30-2008 , 09:43 PM

Guy986

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The first impression i get from villians mini reraising is that they dont understand pot odds. Still that doesn't make ur decision any easier. Is he a donk mini reraising because he wants you to call or he's just mini reraising because its cool?

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05-30-2008 , 10:24 PM

alaplancha

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this happens all the time at the micros and normally means a big hand (but it is so easy to read)....depends on villain in your situation but its a fold at micros I think...

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05-30-2008 , 10:44 PM

Benjiz

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Mini raise here means he has a hand, he is a donk.

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05-30-2008 , 11:01 PM

Guy986

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So mini rereaise= representing teh NUTS?

Maybe i should consider employing this tactic to bluff regulars...

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05-30-2008 , 11:16 PM

breathweapon

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I disagree, min re-raises aren't the nuts at MNL, they're top pairs or pocket pairs etc. where the opponent is spending the least amount of his chips possible to see whether or not your bet is legitimate.

It's raising for information with a marginal holding 9/10 times, and while I hate the min re-raise with a passion, it's effective for avoiding value bets from an over pair or better kicker on the turn or inducing a bluff (like checking with a chip).

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05-30-2008 , 11:31 PM

Guy986

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makes perfect sense, thank you.

Would you consider going over the top of the mini reraise? Assuming he's a donk, do you think he can fold top pair good kicker in NL50?

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05-30-2008 , 11:46 PM

Cruzerthebruzer

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I disagree with breath. Minreraising usually means a big holding. Rarely do I end up playing with someone that minreraises and them have top pair or a lower PP.

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05-31-2008 , 02:12 AM

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breathweapon

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Originally Posted by Cruzerthebruzer

I disagree with breath. Minreraising usually means a big holding. Rarely do I end up playing with someone that minreraises and them have top pair or a lower PP.

You're free to disagree, but after 500k hands thru' 1/2 NL the general out come was min-raising for information more than value raising the nuts; I'm not saying people don't min-raise with the nuts, they can/do, but the play is usually duplicitous between donks who are being pussies and donks who are trying to get paid, and the number of donks who are being pussies has to be higher because the nuts just aren't as common.

Check min-raises are probably more likely to be the nuts.

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05-31-2008 , 02:24 AM

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breathweapon

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Originally Posted by breathweapon

@OP

It's villain dependent, I either fold or I call with overs/draws and either check-fold, check-raise or donk the turn based on changes in texture. Too many people over react on the flop to min-raises or weak leads, floating them is way more sensible, IMO.

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