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08-27-2009 , 10:06 AM
Hello,
First, I wanted to Thank everyone that responded to some of my first posts and made me realize what an idiot I was with my thought process.

cliff: I thought 200nl and 400nl would be as easy to beat as micro (please stop laughing)

I have been reading and studying daily and jumped into 50NL where I feel comfortable learning and grinding. I still have a small sample size of only 6K hands and I'm down only 1 BI. My new issue is the more I read the more I think I need to be muti tabling. I usually only play one table.

So, Yesterday I decide to try it out. I have a 22" monitor so I think that is good for 6 tables. I decided to drop down to 10NL since I would be playing 6 tables. The first hour was a disaster!!! Lost 2 or 3 BI like it was nothing. I was struggling to keep up with the action (I tiled the tables) and was playing bad. I stuck with it and started to keep up with the action and began playing better. In the next hour I actually had a small profit and felt comfortable with the action.

So, I decided to to add 2 more tables,total of 8. I didn't like how the tables tiled so I cascaded them and lost my profit and a couple BI again. I dropped back down to 6 tables and started grinding it back to even. I like the action of 6 tables and think if I got another monitor and could tile the tables I could get to 12 tables where I think I want to be.

Is this the right approach? Dropping down to 10NL and multi tabling until I have the 30 BI for 25NL? I ended even afer 2k hands in just a few hours.

Also, I have signed up and have already been accepted for RB now I'm looking for software. Is Poker Tracker 3 that great? Is it a must as I start to take this more and more serious?
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08-27-2009 , 10:12 AM
I play 8 tables at a time, but I started with 3, 4, 6, then 8. I gave myself a couple of weeks with each amount of tables. Giving yourself only 1 hour to get used to it may not be enough time. Why the rush? Play a few days with 3 tables then go to 4. Give yourself some time with each amount of tables.
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08-27-2009 , 10:15 AM
I think that PT3 is that great; others like Holdem Mgr. W/PT3, you get a 60 day free trial so you can play quite a few hands and see if you like it.

I multitable a smaller number of tables (3 or 4) and at smaller stakes than what you mentioned, but I do feel that the HUD helps out quite a bit. If anything, it is a good starting point for when a villian plays back at you. Even at the donkey stakes I play at, having flop and turn #'s on a villan gives me a good idea of how to proceed w/the hand.

In addition using the HUD, I also take notes on some of the players that I run into a lot.

EDIT: The drawback for the HUD is that often you will have a limited or no sample size for a particular villan. However, I get benefit from PT3 by analyzing hands (I will mark them for review as I play) that I played poorly and try to see where my mistakes were.

To echo the other poster, ease into adding tables. I take it slow and have only added a 3rd and 4th table after feeling real comfortable w/2.
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08-27-2009 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by KingKongGrinder
I play 8 tables at a time, but I started with 3, 4, 6, then 8. I gave myself a couple of weeks with each amount of tables. Giving yourself only 1 hour to get used to it may not be enough time. Why the rush? Play a few days with 3 tables then go to 4. Give yourself some time with each amount of tables.
I was really anxious to try a large number of tables. I started to feel comfortable after an hour. You are probably right I will start with 3 or 4 in tonights session. I did notice I tried to add a 9th table on FT and they wouldn't let me.
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08-27-2009 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Highlimit
I was really anxious to try a large number of tables. I started to feel comfortable after an hour. You are probably right I will start with 3 or 4 in tonights session. I did notice I tried to add a 9th table on FT and they wouldn't let me.
FTP doesn't let us play 9 tables? I never tried more than 8.
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08-27-2009 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Highlimit
I was really anxious to try a large number of tables. I started to feel comfortable after an hour. You are probably right I will start with 3 or 4 in tonights session. I did notice I tried to add a 9th table on FT and they wouldn't let me.
they saw they were running low on real estate in cyber space, having 1/2 their tables refelted, etc... just e-mail support that you are interested in playing more tables and they will allow you to add more. 16 is the max I believe.
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08-27-2009 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by KingKongGrinder
FTP doesn't let us play 9 tables? I never tried more than 8.
Tried to open the 9th and said to contact support
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08-27-2009 , 11:30 AM
To answer your last question first... HoldemManger over PokerTracker.

I find tiling/cascading tables to be somewhat of a sensory overload... too much random stuff going on in different places.

My preference is stacking instead (Note: I used to play 24, I now play 16-20). I occasionally pull a table off to the side to check results, see if I won, what i did right/wrong, villains cards, etc.

You are only concentrating on one table at a time. As soon as a table pops up I see:

my position and cards
action behind me
villains stack sizes and stats

I believe you should be able to make the correct decision 99% of the time based on the above information. And 99% of the time it should be a clear cut decision on exactly what you should do.

If you play 4tbls for a while and are able to consistently beat a certain stake your actions should become almost automatic, imo. I sometimes cut back on tables to work on certains spots or experiment, but after I feel I have improved I go right back to playing more tables. Once you can get this "auto-pilot" mentality you can play 10k hands in a day.

As far as you roll goes... I would recommend playing whatever you're comfortable with. If you have 30-40 buy-ins for 25nl then give it a shot. If you are having trouble drop to 10nl and work on your game/build your roll and then give 25nl a shot again.

Remember, the games do get different/harder as you move up. Your win rate will suffer and your game will have to adapt. Treat it like a video game. Beat level one (consistently) and then try to beat level 2. etc.

Also recommend DeucesCracked.com
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08-27-2009 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Tilt-N-Spew

I find tiling/cascading tables to be somewhat of a sensory overload... too much random stuff going on in different places.

my position and cards
action behind me
villains stack sizes and stats
I now how to tile/cascade...is there an option for stacking or you actually just stack the tables. isn't that really close to cascade? I understand the sensory overload and this sounds like something to try today.
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08-27-2009 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Highlimit
Tried to open the 9th and said to contact support
Full Tilt only lets you have eight tables until you contact them. After that you can have sixteen cash tables open.
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08-28-2009 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Highlimit
I now how to tile/cascade...is there an option for stacking or you actually just stack the tables. isn't that really close to cascade? I understand the sensory overload and this sounds like something to try today.
Not sure if there's an option for it. I play on PStars and they allow you to save/customize your settings... so I have a default setting for stacked tables as well as tiling, etc. Not sure if this is the same for Full Tilt.
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