H1, Fold K9s IP vs a whale? Not happening lol.


H2, We are getting 3.28:1, 4 way 188BB effective, with a hand that plays well multi way, blah, blah, blah, whale involved in the hand


H3, What range are you assigning villain? Blockers?? uwotm8? Given villains line, what value combos does he have?

Yeah I don't even want to comment on the H1 and H2, because I have no idea what's happening there.

H3, is def not a GTO shove OTR, but exploitably can be very good as this river card just makes ppl often play their range terribly.

GTO went out the window when the unknown identified himself a a fish on flop

Why would you call with T7s when it is a hand that is only 50% against a random hand, doesn't play that well multiway, out of position and a 11x open for crying out loud. You can justify calling with any hand that way but it doesn't make it good. This way you're just returning the favor to the fish.

Yep need to play tight from SB. Only position you don't need to get involved at.


Anyone have comments on these hands? Standard folds?

h1: misread the action here. donking is very bad, but what about the river? I don't think people bet AK here. WSD is 60% over 2k hands.

iPoker - €2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: €323.95 (VPIP: 26.64, PFR: 21.21, 3Bet Preflop: 10.26, Hands: 1,179)
CO: €545.41 (VPIP: 22.01, PFR: 15.31, 3Bet Preflop: 5.05, Hands: 212)
BTN: €309.00 (VPIP: 26.22, PFR: 19.85, 3Bet Preflop: 10.41, Hands: 1,932)
SB: €213.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
Hero (BB): €292.00

SB posts SB €1.00, Hero posts BB €2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €3.00) Hero has 9 A

fold, fold, BTN raises to €5.00, fold, Hero calls €3.00

Flop: (€11.00, 2 players) 9 5 A
Hero bets €8.80, BTN calls €8.80

Turn: (€28.60, 2 players) 5
Hero bets €20.00, BTN calls €20.00

River: (€68.60, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BTN bets €40.00, fold



h2: I would prefer betting flop, but ok to let him stab at it.

iPoker - €1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): €100.00
UTG: €131.75 (VPIP: 83.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
CO: €100.00 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 6)
BTN: €100.00 (VPIP: 28.75, PFR: 23.25, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 410)
SB: €40.00 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 8)

SB posts SB €0.50, Hero posts BB €1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €1.50) Hero has K K

UTG calls €1.00, fold, BTN raises to €3.00, fold, Hero raises to €10.00, fold, BTN calls €7.00

Flop: (€21.50, 2 players) 8 4 J
Hero checks, BTN bets €11.00, Hero calls €11.00

Turn: (€43.50, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BTN bets €24.00, Hero calls €24.00

River: (€91.50, 2 players) J
Hero checks, BTN bets €55.00, fold



h3: Q is not very relevant blocker. I guess AQ goes for 3 streets here?
I think it's hard to come up with bluffs when there's 8 and T on the board. Hand like AT can check back for showdown value.

iPoker - £2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: £200.00 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
UTG: £203.00 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
CO: £458.45 (VPIP: 22.66, PFR: 17.19, 3Bet Preflop: 9.77, Hands: 668)
BTN: £281.26 (VPIP: 26.45, PFR: 21.27, 3Bet Preflop: 10.18, Hands: 1,137)
Hero (SB): £303.90

Hero posts SB £1.00, BB posts BB £2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £3.00) Hero has Q K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to £6.00, BB raises to £18.00, Hero calls £12.00

Flop: (£36.00, 2 players) 2 Q 8
Hero checks, BB bets £20.00, Hero calls £20.00

Turn: (£76.00, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BB bets £42.00, Hero calls £42.00

River: (£160.00, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BB bets £120.00, fold

btn reg opens 2.5x
hero 3ets 9x BB with 99
btn calls
flop K3K
Hero?
not sure how to play this spot. can cbet to make hands like JTs/QJ/QT fold there equity and get value from Ahigh. But also TT/Kx calls too.
And what about a blank turn once called?

btn reg opens 2.5x
hero 3ets 9x BB with 99
btn calls
flop K3K
Hero?
not sure how to play this spot. can cbet to make hands like JTs/QJ/QT fold there equity and get value from Ahigh. But also TT/Kx calls too.
And what about a blank turn once called?

Probably cbet to deny equity. QQ, AA or weak Kx would make better check calls.

dc'd through 400 worth of tournies (was able to reconnect in time to salvage some equity), contacted my bcp manager+ftp support got a 300T refund from support and 4 $50 jnp tickets from my manager. Called him up about the double refund and he let me keep it .

#ftp comes through

@zf, cb like 40% pot.

I think I check-call with the nines, but I don't have a major problem with betting small. Depends how wide villain's range is and how likely he is to float.

I would x/jam A5 @fishtankz
H2 start betting this in these positions
H3 standard

Anyone like a donk bet here? Hits my range quite hard so we should get some folds. Obviously if I'm donking then turn and river bets are mandatory.

888 Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 124.4 BB (VPIP: 28.16, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 2.78, Hands: 109)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 110.2 BB (VPIP: 21.37, PFR: 15.78, 3Bet Preflop: 2.26, Hands: 412)
MP: 40 BB (VPIP: 31.82, PFR: 31.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
CO: 114.6 BB (VPIP: 26.89, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 5.08, Hands: 123)
BTN: 97 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K 2

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 6 9 8
Hero bets 4.1 BB, CO calls 4.1 BB

Turn: (13.7 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 10.2 BB, CO calls 10.2 BB

River: (34.1 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 25.5 BB, fold

i don't like it at all, c/f with bottom of range. If you had kcjx then its fine atleast you have equity when called

board is too high. QJ has a gut-shot, and many other lower hands have hit.

How many value/protection combos (if any) are you donking on that board?
As a rule, I hate donking (check-raising for value or semi-bluff is my preference), but if you must bluff there, I think you need a ten or seven in your hand (or maybe QJs with BDFD). You've gotta have some equity if villain calls.

To be honest it was more a case of 'well I don't try donking much, this flop doesn't hit his range, let's give it a try...'. Then I hit my runner runner.

In theory I guess I could donk 2 pairs/sets/overpairs for value, I have a fair bit of value on this board tbh, although I obviously need some in my check-calling range as well which makes it all a bit difficult to balance with a check-raising range.

Want to know your thought process for this.

Pretty sure we shouldn't have donking ranges OTF @BB in srp HU pots.

Since you are calling from the BB because of pot odds your range will be pretty weak and you almost never have the stronger range so having no donking range is probably the best. Trying to balance xc, xr and donk range will be an absolute nightmare.

Don't be one of those regs that donks draws, air and medium strength hands and only check raise two pairs + vs these people I can raise ATC since their range is so transparent.

I think balancing a check-raising range is just as easy/hard as balancing a donking range, but the former is generally more profitable. It's also a lot easier to remember what to do if you check 100% of your range. (You can decide whether to call or raise if and when villain bets, and what size he chooses).
Frequent donkers (aka fish) just don't make much money, in the same way that people who C-bet OOP at too high a frequency don't make much money.
For check-raising, you want to polarize between nuts and draws (on this board, nuts = straights, sets and top two, and draws would be OESDs, gutter+BDFD, bot pr+BDFD) but the beauty of checking is that you'll often get a free card for your weaker draws when villain checks back, and this will not only give you a cheap shot at realizing your equity; you'll also have a good cheap bluffing opportunity on the turn. When you donkbet the weak draw, villain's calling range is pretty strong, but most turn cards won't help you, so you'll either be barreling with very low hand equity and low fold equity in a larger pot (a bluff with a lower rate of success), or you'll be check-folding and never realizing your slender equity.

As a general rule, I agree with this. Since you tend to maximise EV with 2pr+ by check-raising, it makes sense to build balance into your x-raise range rather than the lower EV line that starts with a donkbet.

Im curious about this hand , would you choose the same bet size for cbet on both flush draw and rainbow textures?

I would bet same amount as i'm trying to accomplish the same thing. dunno if that's good or not.

This okay? vs a loose reg/ maybe fish. not sure. 30/24 over 80 hands.

SB: $50 (100 bb)
BB: $50.25 (100.5 bb)
UTG: $50 (100 bb)
Hero (MP): $200.85 (401.7 bb)
CO: $20.60 (41.2 bb)
BTN: $105.40 (210.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.45, CO folds, BTN calls $1.45, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.65) K 7 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.15, BTN calls $2.15

Turn: ($7.95) J (2 players)
Hero bets $4.75, BTN raises to $11, Hero calls $6.25

River: ($29.95) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $15, Hero calls $15

any reads are helpful there.
but he is repping narrow range, might misplay KJ, so calling is ok, esp. vs ½ pot.

As someone who used to play lag, there's a lot of 7x hands he's going to have here.
Need more reads though.