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03-01-2013 , 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtankz

Hand 6: 77/15 his first 3bet over 13 hands.

    Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16298821

    SB: $0.69 (34.5 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $2 (100 bb)
    MP: $0.82 (41 bb)
    CO: $1.80 (90 bb)
    BB: $1.26 (63 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
    MP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.12, SB folds, BB raises to $0.22, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.64, BB raises to $1.26 and is all-in, Hero folds




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    Think I jus puked a little..The fool isnt even 100bb n is playin like a ******..
    03-01-2013 , 03:26 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thetallpaul
    No I won't because Windows 8 is a pile of balls. Anyone know how you can get a basic Paint style drawing program on this junk. All I can get are Apps and stuff. I know they want to compete with Ipads but if I wanted that I would buy one. I wanted a PC. Bloody Microsoft.
    Look up Classicshell (free) or Star8 (more polished altho $5 but free trial)
    03-01-2013 , 03:28 PM
    Running good! Of course villain has a J here, pot odds 38% if i'm correct.
    Villain 18/5/3.3af

      Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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      SB: $1.16 (58 bb)
      Hero (MP): $2 (100 bb)
      BB: $2 (100 bb)
      CO: $2.25 (112.5 bb)
      UTG: $3.34 (167 bb)
      BTN: $4.52 (226 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with 7 7
      UTG calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, CO calls $0.08, 4 folds

      Flop: ($0.21) T 8 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.16, CO calls $0.16

      Turn: ($0.53) 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.40, CO calls $0.40

      River: ($1.33) 9 (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.32, Hero calls $0.32

      Spoiler:
      Results: $1.97 pot ($0.09 rake)
      Final Board: T 8 7 6 9
      Hero mucked 7 7 and lost (-$0.96 net)
      CO showed J A and won $1.88 ($0.92 net)



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      Second time i hit the villains bottom range with aces...
      Villain 64/26

        Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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        CO: $2.56 (128 bb)
        Hero (SB): $2.13 (106.5 bb)
        MP: $1.25 (62.5 bb)
        BB: $2 (100 bb)
        BTN: $0.70 (35 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with A A
        MP raises to $0.08, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.24, BB folds, MP calls $0.16

        Flop: ($0.50) J 4 5 (2 players)
        Hero bets $1.89 and is all-in, MP calls $1.01 and is all-in

        Turn: ($2.52) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)
        River: ($2.52) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $2.52 pot ($0.12 rake)
        Final Board: J 4 5 Q 8
        Hero showed A A and won $0.00 (-$1.25 net)
        MP showed J 4 and won $2.40 ($1.15 net)



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        03-01-2013 , 03:48 PM
        why are you shoving flop?
        03-01-2013 , 03:51 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Studebaker Hawk
        lol it's great when you flop trips and fish has a pair - they NEVER think you could have made trips.
        It's like they're colour blind to the cards on the board.
        Do they convince themselves you don't have an A/K/Q?
        "Okay, he's shoved with KKx on the board, I have 55 - he's probably bluffing, I call".
        If there are two K's on the board, you cannot possibly have one.
        03-01-2013 , 04:11 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by A.Ertbjerg
        why are you shoving flop?
        He is short stacked fish. I thought he would be calling almost anything. Anything i couldn't make him fold by cbetting.
        03-01-2013 , 04:25 PM
        Just making a standard c-bet is better. You will still easily be able to get the money in later on. When you shove you take away his possibility to make a ******ed bluff and rely on him calling off his stack.
        03-01-2013 , 04:48 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by A.Ertbjerg
        why are you shoving flop?
        +1, don't shove flop. lol

        Also, I think u mean TOP of villains range w AA, not bottom..
        Doesnt get much better than J4 on J4x in a 3bet pot



        Oh n this guys seriously mastered the art of clicking buttons

        PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

        Hero (BTN): $35.08
        SB: $61.66
        BB: $24.11
        UTG: $12.15
        MP: $36.97
        CO: $41.20

        SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

        Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A Q

        fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.60, fold, BB raises to $1.80, Hero calls $1.20

        Flop: ($3.70, 2 players) T K Q
        BB checks, Hero checks

        Turn: ($3.70, 2 players) 4
        BB bets $1.76, Hero calls $1.76

        River: ($7.22, 2 players) 3
        BB checks, Hero checks

        BB shows J A (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 27%, Flop 91%, Turn 97%)
        Hero mucks A Q (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 73%, Flop 9%, Turn 3%)
        BB wins $6.90
        03-01-2013 , 05:44 PM
        Not sure why didn't bet the turn but otherwise this is standard from Villain. 3bet vs steal (as far as he knew), checked the flop nuts, bet turn. I'd have bet river as well but maybe trying to induce?
        03-01-2013 , 05:57 PM
        He should bet all streets n shove river like 100% of the time, theres nothing standard about what the way he played that hand


        Oh and thanks for the GIFT
        PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

        BTN: $39.32
        SB: $37.84
        BB: $6.68
        UTG: $27.79
        Hero (MP): $53.23
        CO: $14.76

        SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

        Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q K

        fold, Hero raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, fold, SB raises to $1.25, fold, Hero calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50

        Flop: ($4.00, 3 players) 6 Q K
        SB bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00, fold

        Turn: ($10.00, 2 players) 3
        SB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

        River: ($25.00, 2 players) Q
        SB bets $26.09 and is all-in, Hero calls $26.09

        SB shows A J (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 60%, Flop 18%, Turn 9%)
        Hero shows Q K (Full House, Queens full of Kings) (Pre 40%, Flop 82%, Turn 91%)
        Hero wins $75.18
        03-01-2013 , 05:57 PM
        Why do you think checking the flopped nuts is good there?

        And checking river is terrible. Hero isn't calling turn with nothing so hero has showdown value here almost always and will check back very often.
        03-01-2013 , 06:47 PM
        Why are aggrofish always such luckboxes
        43/33/33%3bet/Agg=6

        Full Tilt - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

        BB: $4.66
        UTG: $7.02
        CO: $4.07
        BTN: $4.93
        Hero (SB): $5.00

        Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

        Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A Q

        fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.25, fold, BTN calls $0.15

        Flop: ($0.55, 2 players) T 3 A
        Hero bets $0.30, BTN raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.30

        Turn: ($1.75, 2 players) 2
        Hero checks, BTN bets $0.85, Hero calls $0.85

        River: ($3.45, 2 players) K
        Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

        Spoiler:
        BTN shows K T (Two Pair, Kings and Tens) (Pre 38%, Flop 18%, Turn 11%)
        Hero mucks A Q (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 62%, Flop 82%, Turn 89%)
        BTN wins $7.89
        03-01-2013 , 07:02 PM
        they arent, you just remember their beats vs you rather than your many MANY wins against theeir weak assed play. Its memory bias.
        03-01-2013 , 07:19 PM
        Running like AIDS at the start of this month. Down $200. If this continues I might have to drop back down to 10NL.

        Anyone playing any of the MicroMillions? It'd be nice to bink one...
        03-01-2013 , 07:53 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by thetallpaul
        WTF? Not even with the Ac!

          Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16298551

          BTN: $4.39 (87.8 bb)
          SB: $3.95 (79 bb)
          BB: $6.21 (124.2 bb)
          UTG: $5.96 (119.2 bb)
          Hero (MP): $11.56 (231.2 bb)
          CO: $16.32 (326.4 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is MP with A K
          UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.15, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25

          Flop: ($0.87) 5 8 2 (2 players)
          Hero checks, BTN bets $3.99, Hero calls $3.99

          Turn: ($8.85) 9 (2 players)
          River: ($8.85) 2 (2 players)

          Spoiler:
          Results: $8.85 pot ($0.37 rake)
          Final Board: 5 8 2 9 2
          BTN showed A A and lost (-$4.39 net)
          Hero showed A K and won $8.48 ($4.09 net)



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          Question about this

          in all the other hands villain is "all-in"

          In this he ain't even though he is all in

          did you edit the HH?
          03-01-2013 , 08:00 PM
          I have a slightly better question about that quote..

          You say he shove wit "Not even the Ac"

          How can be?

          You has thy Ac.

          Last edited by khangura175; 03-01-2013 at 08:02 PM. Reason: lol@frostythedetective
          03-01-2013 , 08:12 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by chad0x001
          they arent, you just remember their beats vs you rather than your many MANY wins against theeir weak assed play. Its memory bias.
          I'm sure they are all time losers, but it's crazy how often you see them sat there with 300bb stacks lucking out all the time.
          It's great that they call 3 bets with QTo, it's great that they call their draws against the odds.
          It sucks when they hit their straight against ME though
          They can do it to other regs imo, keep the fish in the game
          03-01-2013 , 08:16 PM
          You can't always win..

          The sooner you come to realization with this, the sooner you shall embark on glorious escapades of magical, enlightening and illustrious journeys that seem endless to you but halt absurdly quickly for the feeble minded peasants for which we call ... FISHIEEEESSSS
          03-01-2013 , 11:40 PM
            Poker Stars, $2.50/$5 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16300571

            SB: $1,187.08 (237.4 bb)
            Hero (BB): $529.47 (105.9 bb)
            MP: $1,213.33 (242.7 bb)
            CO: $321.55 (64.3 bb)
            BTN: $305.48 (61.1 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BB with A 7 4 6
            MP raises to $15, CO calls $15, BTN calls $15, SB folds, Hero calls $10

            Flop: ($62.50) 8 9 A (4 players)
            Hero checks, MP bets $30, 2 folds, Hero calls $30

            Turn: ($122.50) 7 (2 players)
            Hero checks, MP bets $119.70, Hero calls $119.70

            River: ($361.90) Q (2 players)
            Hero checks, MP bets $110, Hero calls $110

            Results: $581.90 pot ($2.80 rake)
            Final Board: 8 9 A 7 Q
            Hero showed A 7 4 6 and won $579.10 ($304.40 net)
            MP showed 2 T Q K and lost (-$274.70 net)



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            ty drunk finns
            03-01-2013 , 11:51 PM
            Yay for start of month run good

            Saw a guy at NL10ZOOM FR with 1100BB stack.. Must be a good weekend.


            Still tilting from last month so not putting in long sessions
            03-02-2013 , 05:11 AM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by A.Ertbjerg
            Why do you think checking the flopped nuts is good there?

            And checking river is terrible. Hero isn't calling turn with nothing so hero has showdown value here almost always and will check back very often.
            I don't think its best line I just think apart from river check its pretty standard for the limit. I would do it if the player I was up against had a high fold to c-bet and big AF on later streets indicating a tendancy to bluff back against weakness. If not I'd bet bet bet as Khan says. River I'm always betting as I said regardless of what line I took on the flop. Maybe he is trying to induce but small bet would accomplish the same and get extra value if just get a call.
            03-02-2013 , 05:13 AM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Frostyice
            Question about this

            in all the other hands villain is "all-in"

            In this he ain't even though he is all in

            did you edit the HH?

            Nope. I'll copy it again see if it changes.





              Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16300771

              BTN: $4.39 (87.8 bb)
              SB: $3.95 (79 bb)
              BB: $6.21 (124.2 bb)
              UTG: $5.96 (119.2 bb)
              Hero (MP): $11.56 (231.2 bb)
              CO: $16.32 (326.4 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is MP with A K
              UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.15, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25

              Flop: ($0.87) 5 8 2 (2 players)
              Hero checks, BTN bets $3.99, Hero calls $3.99

              Turn: ($8.85) 9 (2 players)
              River: ($8.85) 2 (2 players)

              Spoiler:
              Results: $8.85 pot ($0.37 rake)
              Final Board: 5 8 2 9 2
              BTN showed A A and lost (-$4.39 net)
              Hero showed A K and won $8.48 ($4.09 net)



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              Nope same again. Its says in the plain text all in but converter being odd maybe?
              03-02-2013 , 05:15 AM
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by khangura175
              I have a slightly better question about that quote..

              You say he shove wit "Not even the Ac"

              How can be?

              You has thy Ac.
              I know what I mean is shoving overpair is lolz. Might make some sense if had Club. Do you mean you can only have one of each card?! That would change all my pot odds calculations.
              03-02-2013 , 05:45 AM
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by thetallpaul
              I don't think its best line I just think apart from river check its pretty standard for the limit. I would do it if the player I was up against had a high fold to c-bet and big AF on later streets indicating a tendancy to bluff back against weakness. If not I'd bet bet bet as Khan says. River I'm always betting as I said regardless of what line I took on the flop. Maybe he is trying to induce but small bet would accomplish the same and get extra value if just get a call.
              Consider how that flop hits khans range. What kind off hands are you expecting him to bluff with? And what hands could he bluff villain off?
              03-02-2013 , 06:15 AM
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by A.Ertbjerg
              Consider how that flop hits khans range. What kind off hands are you expecting him to bluff with? And what hands could he bluff villain off?
              I don't know how Khan played vs that Villain so no idea what his perceived range is. The villain I'm talking about opens wide, checks and bets into any weakness aiming to fold people off air, underpair, single pair hands when a board looks scary.

              3bet the wider button open (I assume) with AJ (seems ok). Get called with scary board. Hits a lot of their range and flops me the nuts. If I check here the villain I'm talking about will bet it. If I bet he will assume nuts and fold. As I said if villain is unknown or tagish agree the best line is to bet as I would do. Regardless of flop action I bet turn and river as unlikely to fire second bullet with anything he won't call your lead out on turn . River again nothing will bluff that won't call your bet.

              I'm not sure how I've become the defender of this poor line, all I was saying is that this line is somewhat of a standard at micros with flopped nuts and there are some villains this works on as they see check after 3 bet as weakness. Flop vs normal players is wrong. Turn is OK and river is puke but with FPS assume he was trying to induce the bluff without thinking about what he had done on previous streets. Button clicker alone would surely see nut straight and bet like the ABC player he is.

              Last edited by thetallpaul; 03-02-2013 at 06:23 AM.

                    
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