Hey, so I'm new here. I have been playing s n gs instead of cash games recently, but i just can't win even though the players are often sooooo bad.

It's like its a crapshoot and any analysis of their hands is irrelevanat cuz they dont play logically. I've read SnG strategy by collin moshmnan, loved it, but thats not working either.

Does anyone have advice on how to beat all these hyperagressive players at the low stakes? I mean im sure someone here can succeed at low stakes sit and go's: most players aren't knowledgeable about poker at all (no reading books etc.)

You want to play very tight early. First, the blinds aren't big enough to want. Also, you want to get a rep as a tight player. Small stakes SNG players rarely use software or remember you, so the 1st 20 min of the game is what they use to form an opinion of you.

Later on, you get very aggressive. Try to only enter the pot if you act 1st and only for a raise. They will assume that you must have a hand because you are tight.

If you only do these 2 things, you will beat the game over time.

Also, stay away from pots against super aggressive players or calling stations unless you have a big hand. It is a common beginners mistake to think that you want to be in pots against weak players, you want to avoid them.

Once you get some experience, buy the Harrington on Hold Em books. Lots of great examples involving SNG games.

How many games have you played, especially since reading Collin's book?

Don't be afraid to fold, fold, and fold some more. I have cashed in a lot of micro STTs seeing way under 10% of the flops. If the maniacs want to throw chips around, let them do it and stay out of the way. If you're not catching cards don't play junk, and don't try to bluff an opponnent who will take K9s to the river.

I once played a $5 STT where I saw 2 of the first 63 flops. I took second.

Last week, I didn't win a hand until the 69th hand about 80 minutes into the tourney. I started with 1500, whittled to about 1140 then almost tripled up to about 3000. I raised with KK, got 3 callers (lol same table) and on a J72 rainbow board and got called all-in by KJ.

That's why I usually need a cash game or SnG on the side just to keep me awake.

Anyways I agree with the SnG advice here for tight early. You should only be knocked out in 7-9 place if you get sucked out on. Then mid, you need to take some swings that will result in either a strong finish or a quick fold and then late, you need to go for knockout punches. 10-11BBs or less it's shove or fold. Be the first in or shove over guys who are playing a lot of hands.

I agree with all of this except the last two sentences. In Sit 'n Go Strategy, Mosham has a set of push tables. The basic message is that even with say, 9bb, some hands, such as 62o, just aren't good enough to push. Moshman's line for being truly desperate is actually around 3 big blinds.

To that end, his push tables are grouped in the following ways:

1. By number of BB (10, 7, 5, or 3).

2. By number of opponents, basicially whether there are more or less than 3. Heads-up is a separate discussion in the book.

3. By position: button, cut-off, small blind. (If you're not in one of those positions, you're in the "against many opponents" category.)

To give an example of how these factors change things:

with 7bb, against many opponents, you shove
77+, 98s+, A6s+, ATo+, any 2 suited cards T+, and KQ

with 3bb, from the small blind, you shove
any face card, 54s+, 64s+, and any two cards 7 or above.

You're right but I was not talking about ranges just the fact that at <10BBs, you can't limp or raise 3x anymore. When we play against opponents who don't realize this and don't follow the advice you gave in the rest of your post, we definitely have an edge. Yeah.