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04-20-2022 , 04:25 AM

Vleesjas

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Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 52

Hi guys,

I'm doing a database review on my first 100k hands at 10NL zoom.

I noticed when filtering for DID 2bet AND called 3bet I'm losing -114,58bb / 100.
First I was a little shocked since I thought this was a major leak, but then I figured it might be something unavoidable, just like the negative non-showdown line at my win-graph.
My thought process is that we already invested 2-3 bb on the 2bet, and we are being offered on average around 2:1 on a call. Obviously if we fold hypothetically to every 3bet we lose around 250bb/100 hands, so I figured -144bb / 100 isn't that bad, but I could be totally wrong (and if so I would like to know of course).

So my question is simple, is it normal to have a negative win-rate on calling 3bets after 2betting, or is there regs that have a positive win-rate on calling 3bets after a 2bet?

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04-20-2022 , 08:44 AM

Brokenstars

Verified Coach NLHE

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 16,133

it is normal and your thought process is correct

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04-20-2022 , 03:40 PM

Duncelanas

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Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 6,345

Nicely done!

This same principle applies for vpips out of the sb and bb because of the forced blind bet.

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