Are we calling , 4betting , folding?
What range are we putting him on?
His raise is so weird considering he limp-called preflop then 5x our bet, I assume he is representing QJ / set of 6s ? With his huge raise most times especially at this level we are to assume he has something big more than thinking it is a bluff correct?

My flop bet was a mistake - meant to be 2/3 aka 0.30 not 0.25 but ignoring that he would of done the same play either way ( i assume )

Zoom / unknown villain
(my thoughts below)





What would be the correct play here with overpairs facing this kind of check raise? Especially w/ preflop action ?

I think me folding flop might of been the wrong play , but like i said it's more often he has a big hand than he does a bluff.

If i call i will likely be facing a very large turn bet no matter what card comes / it will be all in or fold on the turn, and i feel most the time i would be behind on the flop already? or is this incorrect.
If i re-raise he is either going to fold or shove all in most of the time and sometimes flat call & lead out on turn so i do not think re-raising here is ever good

Never 4 betting flop. Just does nothing but get better hands to jam. This spot is player dependent but I don't mind calling down on brick streets given he only really reps QJ, 66 and the board is wet.

Hard spot vs an unknown. But there are too many draws on this board, while there is only one likely set.
I'd call the flop and jam turn / call a jam on most non club cards.

What is the reasoning though for calling then getting it in on the turn? when he is representing really big + how often is someone playing a draw like this?

I think you're overthinking it. At this level, in my experience, people will make this raise with (almost) any TP to fold out the flushdraw. QJ is definitely possible but I would never discount Qx here. Given that he limpcalled 4bb he's most likely the kind of player who would do this with Qx, and I wouldn't be unhappy about reraising (which is a 3b btw).

Meant 3 bet....but even if you think this why on earth would you 3 bet?

Very often.
Any AcXc, JcXc. You will also sometimes see dumb weaker draws like AK or T9. As RaiseAgainst said, occasionally it could also be a weaker made hand like Qx or even worse that he is turning into a bluff.

The reasoning is that if you 3bet jam now you will fold many of his weaker hands and mainly get called by stronger hands, whereas if you GII OTT you will get more value from his bluffs and from his medium value hands as he is likely to throw a second barrel.

However, it's true that he looks like a bad player, so jamming OTF might be a good line too as you will price out the draws and may in fact get called by the bottom of his range.

Because when he checkraises this big he's always calling it off IMO. I dont see many bluffs in his range, but that's just going on what little information is given, so basically a gut feeling of how most fish would play this. I'm not a cash game regular though.

Calling to see the turn then jamming seems really bad. Were gonna hate half the turn cards. Like a club and ace etc. Villian dependent , I'm either jamming the flop or folding.

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Vs an unknown would you be folding most of the time then?

Call the flop, evaluate the turn as a standard. How many tables was villain playing, or was he hidden from search?

This....

Idk what you guys are thinking jamming flop

hm at first when people were suggesting this i couldn't see why but i am now leaning more towards this route of calling and re-evaluating on turn but the thing is that we are facing another bet and likely getting it in on any turn or folding , if any club comes or any Q or J or 6 we cannot continue ?


Also was zoom & 1 table


interested in hearing more on this though

Probably folding on clubs facing a normal size bet (we could consider jamming if we had AcA instead), calling facing a blocker, continuing on any card that pairs the board (it reduces the number of value combos he has, nobody's x/r'ing KQ here), deciding on any other, generally based on bet size because we can expect someone who l/c pre to have some horrendous sizing tells.