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06-01-2014 , 07:34 PM
How'd you make $131 profit and not rolled for 10nl? Seriously aggro shots really are the way forward out of micros.
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06-01-2014 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MMSS
How'd you make $131 profit and not rolled for 10nl? Seriously aggro shots really are the way forward out of micros.
That's my total profit since starting. Started with $60. And haven't been running to well at 5NL so don't want to take shots when I'm not feeling confident about it.

My rolls is just over $200 so I will be putting in some 10NL tables once I fell confident in my game and can actually put together some back to back winning session.

Last edited by Dwimmerlaike; 06-01-2014 at 07:47 PM.
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06-01-2014 , 09:29 PM
Logan - call in H1 and H2, fold in H3.
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06-02-2014 , 12:43 AM
In 4 June

[] 15k hands @ 10nl
[] finish poker book I'm rereading
[] take a shot at 25nl
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06-02-2014 , 02:45 AM


Somewhat happy with last month, moved most of my br off 888 with the intention of going back to stars but I still haven't. Had a shot at $3 but had to step back down that's where those crazy spikes towards the end are from.

[ ] Stop playing on 888
[ ] Get ROI to 10%+
[ ] Play 500 SNG's
[ ] Move up to $3
[ ] Finish reading and fully notating HoH Vol 1.
[ ] Notate at least 1 video per week (would like all the stuff I have done by the end of the month really...)
[ ] Daily Session Review
[ ] Review at least 3 hands a week in STTSF
[ ] Start 2 Tabling Consistently
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06-02-2014 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Royalflush15
Logan - call in H1 and H2, fold in H3.
Yeah, I call all 3 and lose H1-H2 and win H3, but was thinking H3 was a fold and unsure on H2 was a call. H2 Villain looks really tight, thinking our best scenario maybe a split, i don´t like to fold boats but don´t see villain shoving mid/lower PP´s when king show, but idk.

H1 i do think is a call, he show K9 though : /
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06-02-2014 , 03:42 AM
In H2 you're obviously splitting a lot but the only 2x villain has in his range is A2 so you can't fold really.

In H1 villain is an idiot for calling pre with K9 unless you've been 3betting literally every open. Make a note and 3bet him with a depolarised range from now on.
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06-02-2014 , 03:55 AM
Hand 2: Does villain has enough floats OTF to make a second barrel profitable? Not saying it's not the case, I was just wondering
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06-02-2014 , 04:57 AM
I'm in? I'm new to these threads, I don't post as much as I want/would like/should.

After a brutal run in May...


...my June goals are simply:

[ ] Play only 16nl (no 25nl til I have a profitable month)
[ ] Finish month in black BEFORE RB etc
[ ] Keep midset as strong as in May (quit sessions when tilt creeps in)
[ ] 30k hands
[ ] Post some hands (I have never made this a habit)
[ ] Post 3 hands that I played v. badly (imo)

Am I doing this right?
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06-02-2014 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Roszzz
Very nice Gamma! You considering moving up for good to 100nl?
nah just going to be taking small shots for the next month or so before I consider moving permanently. Still have a lot of work to do before I would feel comfortable.
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06-02-2014 , 11:23 AM
I'm going to get flamed mercilessly for this hand. I just felt like experimenting and I'll probably never play Aces this way again. We've established that limp-reraising is bad, but how about limp-calling? I realize I was lucky to have things go exactly perfectly in that 1) someone raised behind me, and 2) no one else called. Also was lucky that villain kinda hit the flop and interpreted my donk bet exactly as I hoped he would. Actually, if there's one place this play could succeed regularly, it's Bovada Zone, as villains won't have the stats on me to realize I'm not really a loose-passive player.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): $13.64
MP: $6.45
CO: $6.50
BTN: $9.06
SB: $4.06
BB: $2.83

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A A

Hero calls $0.05, fold, CO raises to $0.20, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.47, 2 players) 8 9 4
Hero bets $0.33, CO raises to $0.71, Hero raises to $2.11, CO raises to $6.30 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.19

Turn: ($13.07, 2 players) 4

River: ($13.07, 2 players) 2

Hero shows A A (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 78%, Flop 78%, Turn 95%)
CO shows 9 T (Two Pair, Nines and Fours) (Pre 22%, Flop 22%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins $12.42
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06-02-2014 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Royalflush15
In H2 you're obviously splitting a lot but the only 2x villain has in his range is A2 so you can't fold really.

In H1 villain is an idiot for calling pre with K9 unless you've been 3betting literally every open. Make a note and 3bet him with a depolarised range from now on.
Agree, and not even sure he would have A2 on his range from CO when is looking so nit (small example though), he have AA btw, but yeah not folding.

Thanks for H1 note.
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Originally Posted by ToTcH
Hand 2: Does villain has enough floats OTF to make a second barrel profitable? Not saying it's not the case, I was just wondering
Only 27 hands but guessing on that flop he could float with a bunch of FD and AK/AQ other times.
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06-02-2014 , 12:11 PM
@freewill, think about your range when you l/c. Also in a vacuum we lose value and it makes it really tough to play postflop.
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06-02-2014 , 12:47 PM
Just raise it PF, if someone 3-bets you are super happy
Or at least do the classical limp/re-raise, villain might call 3b with the hand he had.
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06-02-2014 , 01:40 PM
I has a hand:

Villain is tight Russian reg, has been opening lots of buttons and I've been 3 betting him a ton, since he has been folding 100%.

    Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #27589591

    BB: $16.07 (100.4 bb)
    UTG: $5.32 (33.3 bb)
    MP: $9.22 (57.6 bb)
    CO: $20.71 (129.4 bb) VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 5, AF: 1.8, Hands: 422
    BTN: $16.59 (103.7 bb)
    Hero (SB): $22.78 (142.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with J T
    2 folds, CO raises to $0.48, BTN folds, Hero raises to $1.60, BB folds, CO calls $1.12

    Flop: ($3.36) 7 J J (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.60, CO calls $1.60

    Turn: ($6.56) 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $4.08, Hero raises to $19.58, CO calls $13.43 and is all-in

    River: ($41.58) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $41.58 pot ($1.50 rake)
    Final Board: 7 J J 8 9
    CO showed A J and lost (-$20.71 net)
    Hero showed J T and won $40.08 ($19.37 net)



    Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.


    I cbet flop because duh, decide to x turn to get his floats and pairs to bet, and jam over the top of it because hey, imo there's only two hands in his range (77 and the hand he has) that calls off and beats me (I don't see him deciding to take a stand w/KJ or QJs), but I figure if he's slowplaying big pairs he may call off to an x/jam on this kinda board texture since my range is wide and my image is bleh. Plus he can have a couple of combos with FDs.

    Does that make sense as a thought process? Or is this just spew?
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    06-02-2014 , 01:50 PM
    you can bet a bit bigger on this flop texture. 2$. that's too cheap price for draws.
    i think i would xc twice given your line. xc river and he might spazz out. When you take this line he needs to have something big, either flush draw or QQ+ maybe T9.
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    06-02-2014 , 02:33 PM
    Ty Fishtankz.

    I really don't think T9 is in his range, I figured a player like this would likely be trapping given the dynamic that developed over the session, hence taking this line. It seems kinda FPSy in retrospect, but I'm glad you didn't consider it spewy. Top of range etc.

    Would appreciate a 2nd opinion of course.
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    06-02-2014 , 02:35 PM
    Some hands I'd like feedback on:

    1) I didn't notice stack sizes otherwise I'd 3bet bigger. Think I should x flop with most of if not all my range. River is an explo-fold.

    PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: $76.73 (VPIP: 34.00, PFR: 28.00, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 52)
    SB: $37.39 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
    Hero (BB): $117.00
    UTG: $53.85 (VPIP: 22.96, PFR: 18.47, 3Bet Preflop: 5.48, Hands: 2,659)
    MP: $83.11 (VPIP: 24.62, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 66)
    CO: $155.11 (VPIP: 24.23, PFR: 20.43, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 572)

    SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has Q Q

    fold, fold, CO raises to $1.25, fold, fold, Hero raises to $4.50, CO calls $3.25

    Flop: ($9.25, 2 players) 2 T 9
    Hero bets $5.75, CO calls $5.75

    Turn: ($20.75, 2 players) 3
    Hero checks, CO bets $13.00, Hero calls $13.00

    River: ($46.75, 2 players) 3
    Hero checks, CO bets $31.00, fold

    Spoiler:
    CO wins $44.65



    2) Think I should bet flop here but it's close.

    PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: $39.21 (VPIP: 32.35, PFR: 26.47, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 35)
    SB: $117.09 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
    BB: $28.01 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 10)
    UTG: $43.72 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
    MP: $123.07 (VPIP: 26.74, PFR: 18.60, 3Bet Preflop: 7.89, Hands: 90)
    Hero (CO): $98.93

    SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has 6 6

    fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, SB raises to $5.00, BB calls $4.50, Hero calls $3.50

    Flop: ($15.00, 3 players) 7 7 8
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $7.50, fold, fold

    Spoiler:
    Hero wins $14.32



    3) BUUUUUUTCH (I think) - river should be a x/f probably but b/f is the next best option.

    PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: $24.25 (VPIP: 17.95, PFR: 10.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
    Hero (SB): $104.65
    BB: $50.00 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
    UTG: $121.62
    MP: $65.84 (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 2.04, Hands: 100)
    CO: $56.97 (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 18)

    Hero posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has Q K

    fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1.00

    Flop: ($3.00, 2 players) 2 T J
    Hero bets $2.00, BB calls $2.00

    Turn: ($7.00, 2 players) A
    Hero bets $5.00, BB calls $5.00

    River: ($17.00, 2 players) A
    Hero checks, BB bets $13.50, Hero calls $13.50

    Spoiler:
    BB shows 2 2 (Full House, Twos full of Aces) (Pre 51%, Flop 74%, Turn 23%)
    Hero mucks Q K (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 49%, Flop 26%, Turn 77%)
    BB wins $42.02
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    06-02-2014 , 04:57 PM
    Happy with May for my 1st month of playing CG's
    Started @ 10NL and moved up to 25NL.

    [x] 20k hands < 35k+
    [ ] read 2 cash game books (crush micros & easy game) <half a book ,failed
    [x] silverstar on PS < GS
    [x] tell the mrs to stfu ,cant you see im reading a book !!




    For June
    [ ] 30k Hands @ 25NL
    [ ] Finish CG Book
    [ ] Maintain GoldStar (not that its worth much)

    GL all, in your goals for this month.
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    06-02-2014 , 09:11 PM
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    Originally Posted by Freewill2112
    I'm going to get flamed mercilessly for this hand. I just felt like experimenting and I'll probably never play Aces this way again. We've established that limp-reraising is bad, but how about limp-calling? I realize I was lucky to have things go exactly perfectly in that 1) someone raised behind me, and 2) no one else called. Also was lucky that villain kinda hit the flop and interpreted my donk bet exactly as I hoped he would. Actually, if there's one place this play could succeed regularly, it's Bovada Zone, as villains won't have the stats on me to realize I'm not really a loose-passive player.

    PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (UTG): $13.64
    MP: $6.45
    CO: $6.50
    BTN: $9.06
    SB: $4.06
    BB: $2.83

    SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A A

    Hero calls $0.05, fold, CO raises to $0.20, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.15

    Flop: ($0.47, 2 players) 8 9 4
    Hero bets $0.33, CO raises to $0.71, Hero raises to $2.11, CO raises to $6.30 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.19

    Turn: ($13.07, 2 players) 4

    River: ($13.07, 2 players) 2

    Hero shows A A (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 78%, Flop 78%, Turn 95%)
    CO shows 9 T (Two Pair, Nines and Fours) (Pre 22%, Flop 22%, Turn 5%)
    Hero wins $12.42
    Limp reraising gets a bad rap on this forum. I always limp raise rather than limp call but maybe limp calling is better since a limp reraise just screams strength.

    I don't think it's tough to play AA postflop even without position and initiative. Villain was a bit of an idiot in this hand mind and should have just called your donk bet (then again, there's so many of these idiots around who auto raise any donkbet, why not do it?).

    Nh I reckon.
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    06-03-2014 , 12:35 AM
    In.

    Opening ~40% in SB is pretty standard I think.
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    06-03-2014 , 05:34 AM
    In.

    Keep playing 50nl and establish myself at hundy before I leave for europe.

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    06-03-2014 , 08:02 AM
    2nd hand in my first NL5 shot of the month...to nitty to fold?



    PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (BTN): $5.00
    SB: $4.16 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
    BB: $7.30 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
    UTG: $5.02 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
    MP: $5.56 (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 7.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
    CO: $9.92 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

    SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 5 5

    fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, fold, BB raises to $0.50, Hero calls $0.35

    Flop: ($1.02, 2 players) 5 Q 7
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.73, BB raises to $6.80 and is all-in, Hero ?????????????????
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    06-03-2014 , 08:04 AM
    ^ I lold irl
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    06-03-2014 , 09:14 AM
    Snap call unless you have some kinda amazing read on villain after 42 hands (hint: you don't).

    Sorry he had QQ
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