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06-01-2017 , 03:50 PM

redlineftw

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 189

Playing micro donkaments.

Villain is playing 35/25 and an aggro fish . Has been raising and flatting opens a ton and not ever getting to showdown. He's either betting big or folding a ton..

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 0.55 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds 18 Ante (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP2 (t5,000)
MP3 (t36,650)
CO (t7,104)
Button (t4,780)
Hero (SB) (t30,820)
BB (t18,379)
UTG (t4,121)
UTG+1 (t8,633)
MP1 (t11,390)

Hero's M: 66.71

Preflop: Hero is SB with J

, J

3 folds, MP2 raises to t400, MP3 calls t400, CO calls t400, 1 fold, Hero raises to t2,357, BB calls t2,157, 1 fold, MP3 calls t1,957, CO calls t1,957

Flop: (t9,990) 6

, 3

, 10

(4 players)
Hero bets t9,990, 1 fold, MP3 calls t9,990, 1 fold

Turn: (t29,970) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets t18,455 (All-In), MP3 calls t18,455

River: (t66,880) 5

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t66,880

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06-02-2017 , 06:03 AM

SharkytheFish

adept

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,114

Once you make that flop bet your basically committed as your not folding an overpair on this board against this opponent with a pot size stack left behind. I think I favour a x/c ott with the intention of calling a shove. By leading again you give villain a chance to get away from floats and the pps in his range.

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06-02-2017 , 06:10 AM

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 75,201

Why are you clicking the pot button rather than thinking about your bet sizing? There's 10k in the pot and 28k left to bet, going 7000-7500 or so still leaves less than a pot sized bet on the turn and allows you to get value from people that might call that much but wouldn't call a pot bet. Unless, of course, your read is that he's a fish that will call a bunch, in which case why not just open jam the flop?

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06-02-2017 , 06:34 AM

redlineftw

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 189

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Originally Posted by sixfour

I felt that he was calling anybet so my thinking was that I wanted to get the chips in as quickly as possible. I would usually hit one of my pre selected pot % buttons.. likely the 60% one.. Also my thinking was that villain could possibly fold to a bigger bet relative to the pot size on later streets whereas he would be less likely to fold to a smaller jam relative to the pot size with any draw, pair plus draw type hand..

I don't think he would have called an open jam... however i could be wrong.

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06-02-2017 , 11:59 AM

ArtyMcFly

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 13,256

I think I prefer check-jamming the flop when it's multiway, as someone is likely to bet. Betting smaller and then jamming good turns is also fine. You're gonna lose a big pot here pretty often though. Between them, it's somewhat likely someone spiked a set.

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