Question - if he's a reg, why did you call the river? I understand we have blockers etc and he's polarised, but I think without reads, bluff-catching river checkraises in 3bet pots when villain could easily have a nutted hand (AK/KK) - which can take this line for value, as your flop calling range is basically floats and stuff which is going to go for thin value on this river a fair bit - seems a bit spewy in general.

failed to get full value with turned quads, didnt get last street of value vs fish for another 40bb which he would have called off, called a turn min c/r with AJ on A7XA and half pot on the river blank and got all in on A56 r with 56 against a guy who limped the co with AA then min bet the flop :/

lol @ the dreaded 85 ..

Damned nit limped from EP when I was button with 52.
26x on flop: check check
2 on turn: check check
K on river: i bet, he raises, i call thinking maybe he paired his king (also don't have much behind, I'm short stacked in an SNG) he rolls over 66!
Sneaky fecker!
Still, getting busted with 52 makes me feel like a fish.

Anyone playing TCOOP #1 Today ?

I play it probably exactly the same way hero plays it except maybe go a tad bigger on the river because villains hand looks a lot like Kx trying to get to showdown up until the crai otr ofc.

I just don't believe villain is ever going for value with this line because if he has AQ or a boat then he's most likely betting the turn as well, or check raising the turn, and if not one of those he pretty much had to lead the river with some kind of value bet because Hero has a lot of KQ/KJ type stuff in his range here that is going to click it back on the river but might call.

Gotta give villain credit for being able to recognize that Hero's range isn't all that strong - AJ/AQ is basically top of hero's perceived range imo. But he picked a bad spot to do this because all he reps his spaz.

Playing aggro donk fish (as usual).
4 bet pre was because he was 3 betting a lot.
When I saw the flop I knew I'd got him because he had like 100% donk flop stats, usually pot sized bet.
When he went AI though, I knew he'd have one hand

iPoker - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (CO): $4.06
BTN: $4.55
SB: $4.42
BB: $2.09
UTG: $4.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has A K

fold, Hero raises to $0.12, BTN calls $0.12, SB raises to $0.40, fold, Hero raises to $0.96, BTN calls $0.84, SB calls $0.56

Flop: ($2.92, 3 players) 4 K A
SB bets $3.46, Hero calls $3.10, fold

Turn: ($9.12, 2 players) Q

River: ($9.12, 2 players) 9



That's what you get for letting BB get a free ride. lol @ limping from LP with a value hand. Also lol @ him not raising flop!
Opinions on river here?
Any non spade I'd have gone all in, but he's not likely to have a flush, yet he'll probably see a shove on the flush card and not call.
I bet something I thought he'd call. Good, or just shove?

iPoker - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BB): $4.50
UTG: $0.94
CO: $2.37
BTN: $2.75
SB: $4.00

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has 3 3

fold, CO calls $0.04, fold, SB calls $0.02, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.12, 3 players) T 3 T
SB checks, Hero bets $0.12, CO calls $0.12, fold

Turn: ($0.36, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, CO bets $0.04, Hero raises to $0.36, CO calls $0.32

River: ($1.08, 2 players) Q
Hero bets $0.81, CO calls $0.81



Think I'm gonna avoid players like this from now on. I see the VPIP and think they should be easy to beat, but they're so aggro.
53/34/14% 3bet
0% folded on flop
Raised 14% of flop bets.

iPoker - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $1.40
Hero (MP): $4.54
CO: $3.94
BTN: $4.10
SB: $16.29
BB: $4.90

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has K Q

fold, Hero raises to $0.12, fold, fold, SB calls $0.10, fold

Flop: ($0.28, 2 players) Q J 8
SB bets $0.21, Hero raises to $0.45, SB raises to $16.17, fold



These players always seem to respond to a raise with a shove or big raise.
Nice when you have the nuts, but anything less than a set is always a fold.
Maybe should have either just called or shoved myself?

yeah if you know he's aggro, call down, let him bluff away his stack.

Don't ever raise/fold against a maniac. It's pretty much the one thing you may never do. Raise calling with TPGK is a possibility and so is just calling down over 3 streets, though that flop can get really ugly real quick. But building big pots and folding is a big mistake against maniacs.

I think the 33 hand is played fine. Of course if you think he will call a shove, a shove is better but that sizing and thought process isn't bad.

33 - I think u could raise bigger on turn
QK - I prefer calling down

Yeah exactly, he will call worse possibly but hes not shoving worse

^ This sums that up..
I cant even think about folding at this point given his aggro nature and high 3bet.. I have no other hands that can call this that r this strong.. N bet/folding every single time is not going to work out too well..
Vs some passive fish, thats a different story

I don't agree that it's going to be a problem if you fold 100% of your range in a weird river spot at 10NL Zoom. Villains will never exploit it.

Thats zoom25 not 10 though vs that villain I dont think im folding at any stakes..

Cooler is cooler man, u cant even away from coolers in a 3bet pot basically ever

This guy gonna 1 out cooler me on riv.. all g.. i dont even care.. that spot will never happen more than a few times in over 100k hands

I think this reg knew that I had nothin but he didnt do anything about it lol
He like tank calls flop n snap folds turn

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $34.57
SB: $11.74
Hero (BB): $25.80
UTG: $12.50
MP: $36.60
CO: $24.13

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q J

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.50, fold, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.10, 2 players) 5 6 5
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.69, Hero raises to $2.00, BTN calls $1.31

Turn: ($5.10, 2 players) 8
Hero bets $2.75, fold

Hero wins $4.87

DAFUQ? Hes not even a fish n I was pretty sure this fool would fold Qx..

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $12.50
SB: $25.40
BB: $20.58
UTG: $26.11
Hero (MP): $26.86
CO: $25.10

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J K

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25, 3 players) J 7 Q
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.25, 3 players) 6
SB bets $1.50, fold, Hero calls $1.50

River: ($5.25, 2 players) A
SB checks, Hero bets $4.00, SB calls $4.00

Hero shows J K (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 68%, Flop 85%, Turn 93%)
SB mucks J T (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 32%, Flop 15%, Turn 7%)
Hero wins $12.65

Going to try to get more involved with this thread If you don't mind.
BR started at $ 40 (when FTP went online) moved it to PS. Played 2NL and 5NL, been hovering around $ 140 for days.

No graphs yet, only played 10k hands this month (switched to Zoom yesterday as I can't reach Silverstar with 6-tabling Fast). No large volume for me unfortunately but slow and steady wins the race.

Got an email from FTP yesterday. If I move $ 40 to FTP and clear 50 FTPoints I get an additional $ 10 bonus. Anyone know how long 50 points takes on 2 or 5NL? I can move it back to PS when Ive cleared it.

Yeah, me too Mal.

I'm probably the very definition of a recreational player. I've been playing for about a year. Up until the middle of last month it was almost exclusively tournaments, but i didn't seem to be able to play very often due to other commitments (young family and full time job) leaving me with very few chances to sit and play for the few hours at a time that tournament play requires. So I've started on cash games after winning $42 in two freerolls on 888 in early December. I've played ~2500 hands since then and got my roll up to $63 and change.

I'll probably duck in here a couple of times a week, so I thought I'd say Hi!

One question: is this a good place to post hands for comment / analysis, or would I be better posting them in the micro stakes analysis forum?

I think this guy would've been floating a lot of hands on this flop, but wouldn't call the turn with JJ. Was planning to c/c, but the bet size threw me off. Decent?

iPoker - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BB): $4.63
UTG: $6.44
MP: $2.10
CO: $0.00
BTN: $4.15
SB: $2.88

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 8 Q

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.20, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.65, CO calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.32, 2 players) Q 4 4
Hero bets $0.70, CO calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.72, 2 players) T
Hero checks, CO bets $6.33, fold

CO wins $2.59

ffs iPoker hates me.
After saying I was going to avoid maniacs, I get a guy playing 95/55/40% 3bet to my left.
Very aggro, so I decide only play premium hands, because he's going to call or raise so I'm going to be playing OOP with him every hand. Not good.
Figured if I flopped the nuts or near nuts I'd definitely stack him because there's no way he's going to a) not bet b) not call or raise me if I raise.
Then I get this hand:

iPoker - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $8.44
BB: $4.53
Hero (UTG): $4.15
CO: $4.01
BTN: $4.93

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has J J

Hero raises to $0.12, CO calls $0.12, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.30, 2 players) K J A
Hero checks, CO bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.60, CO calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.50, 2 players) A
Hero checks, CO bets $0.80, Hero raises to $2.92, CO raises to $3.29, Hero calls $0.37

River: ($8.08, 2 players) 3



PS. Don't ask why I didn't shove turn, just a misclick.
On the plus side, played some profitable Zoom at stars, where the fish seemed pretty passive today.

Q8s - wp
JJ - As played check/shove turn?.. Dont kno why u leave him with 0.37..
Also, I would rsther bet flop/turn almost always n shove over any raise

Sorry, edited to say why I left some behind.
Just misclicked the slider (there is an all in button but I tend to use the slider which doesn't always go where I want it).

He built his stack up to like 2.5 BI then blew it, gave my money away.
Got busted 4 bet shoving JKs pre against aces, lol.

Why do these kids think AA is the nuts postflop? Its only the nuts preflop lol
I dont know even know how he can even think about calling my shove.. I obv dont mind but its just beyond bad.. Like prob one of the worst calls ive ever seen in awhile by a non-fish

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $10.00
Hero (SB): $20.52
BB: $41.98
UTG: $6.28
MP: $14.29
CO: $10.80

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A K

UTG raises to $0.30, MP raises to $0.80, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.75, fold, UTG calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.50, 3 players) J Q T
Hero bets $2.00, UTG calls $2.00, MP raises to $6.20, Hero raises to $19.72 and is all-in, fold, MP calls $7.29 and is all-in

Turn: ($31.48, 2 players) Q

River: ($31.48, 2 players) 6

Hero shows A K (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 7%, Flop 92%, Turn 90%)
MP shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Queens) (Pre 93%, Flop 8%, Turn 10%)
Hero wins $30.06

Sidenote- Y is zoom25 so much more nitty than zoom10 right now .. 16% ppf vs 10% is pretty huge, i dont even want to play zoom25 wit those numbers lol ****ING NITS!

I cant stop laughing..

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $10.13
SB: $9.31
BB: $10.00
UTG: $19.07
MP: $4.80
CO: $7.79

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K A

UTG raises to $0.40, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.40, fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25, 3 players) 3 K 2
BB bets $0.90, UTG calls $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

Turn: ($3.95, 3 players) 8
BB checks, UTG bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00, fold

River: ($9.95, 2 players) 5
UTG bets $3.00, Hero raises to $5.83 and is all-in, UTG calls $2.83

Hero shows K A (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 45%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
UTG shows 9 9 (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 55%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins $20.64

oh dear

Can anyone offer me any advice for good training videos for NL10. I beat NL2 for 10bb/100 and NL5 for 9bb/100 over 20k hands each. Every time I go to NL10 I get destroyed. I'm -18bb/100. Cannot understand what I'm doing wrong. Its not below EV I just can't seem to get a fold with anything but the nuts in which case its a fold every time. It might just be variance as its only been 1600 hands or so but it feels like I'm getting outplayed. I expected the standard to improve but its like a different game. Has anyone got experience in making adjustments to this level?

No point posting hands I don't think as I'm not getting to showdown with anything except two standard coolers (Set over set and AA over KK AIPF). My redline is so negative. Do you have to call down lighter in NL10?

Hope this doesn't come across too much like a massive whine I'm really looking for help on how to adjust not sympathy. Anyway I'm back off to NL5. Need to move back down to where they respect my raises.

1600 hands is basically meaningless, doesn't mean much
You should steal more to make redline not drop so quickly




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Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

BTN: $37.61
SB: $25.00
BB: $27.44
Hero (UTG): $42.10
MP: $25.76
CO: $64.86

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with 2 2
Hero raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.60) 5 J 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($2.60) 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $1.75, MP calls $1.75, BTN raises to $4.25, Hero calls $2.50, MP folds

River: ($12.85) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $7, Hero says "55? lol", Hero says "i guess maybe 99 too", BTN says "", Hero calls $7

Final Pot: $26.85
BTN shows 5 5 (three of a kind, Fives)
Hero mucks 2 2
BTN wins $25.64
(Rake: $1.21)

I've spent so much time lurking in BBV that this made me smile

GL thetallpaul.