6max 5NL

Oy, is this bad?

yes, i 3 bet that all day every day against unknowns

yes, no real need to 3bet it tho at nl5, why win 3bbs when he folds, when u can call and make more in the long term

yea in a tournament u can do this.. but in lolbadnl5 cash u need not fold. im usually raising and i will have 100% cbet here too.

Really?

In the early stages of a tourney i would be calling, and in the later stages of a tournament i would be shoving.

You shouldn't definitely be calling at the very least.

Me reading OP

Yes your'e a nit. This is close between a 3 bet or a call, but it should not be a fold.

I'm 3betting AQ almost all the time in this situation.

Even if the BTN is a mega nit only raising 10% of his hands pf, you still have 50.897% equity with AQo.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.103% 43.84% 05.26% 909866196 109166682.00 { 88+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 50.897% 45.64% 05.26% 947112888 109166682.00 { AQo }

I'm going to assume that the villain probably raises a bit more than 10% of his hands pf. Add to that, he is raising from the BTN which widens his range even more. You are clearly a favorite against his range.

That range is for if you flat though. If you 3bet his continuation range will be a lot smaller (barring reads). 90%+ of villains btn steal range is much wider anyway, but their cont range is still pretty small.

I would flat tbh. Most likely 3bet after i get some reads and stats.

Ive been wondering about this situation...

Obviously I like to 3b from the button.

But folding AQ to a standard 14/10 TAG in the SB is nitty? I do it sometimes, leak?

I know. But again, those stove numbers were based on a ~12/10 nit. The unknown is probably not an ~12/10 nit, so his pfr is probably higher than 10. Plus, he's on his BTN so his range is even higher.

Let's say a more realistic number.... he raises 20% of hands on the BTN (which is still pretty conservative for BTN play). Let's say he only calls/4bets with the following range. { 77+, AJs+, KQs, AQo+, KQo } or 7.5% of hands. That means that 65.5% of the time, you are going to pick up the pot pf. The 35.5% of the time that he does call/4bet, you still have 44.2% equity in those situations. Over time, I think that 3betting here would be +EV.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I love to be shown when I'm wrong so I can make my own play better.

Based on this you are essentially treating AQ as a bluff. If BTN opens so wide and calls so little you should 3-bet a bunch of other hands and call with AQ.

its nl5 ffs, he will call 3bets very light

Yes, folding AQo to a LP raise is a leak.

Typically a way that I've learned is pretty accurate by studying my HH in poker tracker is that a 14/10 would raise slightly less than 1/2 his PFR in EP about equal to his PFR in MP and in LP about slightly more than double his PFR. So in LP this player is probably raising about the top 20% - 25% (If not more)and you are folding a hand that is about the top 5 or 6% (depending where you place AQo).

I can understand folding this OOP to an EP raise agasint a TAG, but not against a LP raise. Even a rock can open up on the button.

AQ.. 2rd best drawing hand but my biggest loser. I always seem to get in trouble with it somehow. So 3betting a LP raise in a FR cash game is standard?

You can still beat 5NL folding here. But it's bad. Unless you know BTN is a huge huge nit, folding is a mistake here.

Sorry, I wasnt very clear in my post. Obviously if the raise from the BTN or CO I'll 3b.

I meant from MP/EP.

This.

If it was A8s then sure, 3bet.