ok it's that time of month again.... you know.. where you run worse then a crippled guy and you loose everything...

so i have a n few question about re buying in

1) if i was to buy back in how much should i buy in for?
2) what stakes should i play at the buy in amount.

i know this is a stupid question to ask because it's a personal choice but i need need some advice... i have brought in for some stupid about like 20$ before and i couldn't really do much...

i ask this question because i am trying to make poker a full time gig and it's not going to well.


( this is not a troll post)

haha study the game before you buy back in...

that is the best advice anyone can give you

Put 20$ on pokerstars and start grinding 2nl using proper BRM. As I tell many poker newbies, if you can't grind up from 2nl, you don't have the discipline or skill to win at poker anyway.

Put in the time and effort and you will be rewarded.

i dont know anything about your play or post history so im posting blind...however.....
bankroll management bud. if your losing it all alot then you arent doing it right (also note that if you have the funds to reload then your Bankroll is > than what you ahve online).

whatever a conservative bankroll management system suggests. maybe even lower.

of course if you just play for fun then treat your buyins as entertainment expenses. it can be cheaper than going to a movie or having a big night out and honestly if you want to play for fun and arent too fussed if you lose then thats cool. there are plenty of people (most are admittedly fish but whatever) who treat poker this way....it isnt necessarily the 2+2 way but poker is supposed to be fun. not everyone is necessarily cut out to be pro.

seriously, unless you are buying in for like less than $30 or so you should be able to last a month without going broke even if that means playing NL2 or low buyin sngs/tourneys

also work on your game and get better at poker is a decent idea if you want to make the effort. goodluck

without 5k I wouldn't do poker as a job imo.

thanks man.. yeah.. everything will be ok... i will just reload and play like small limit... i have a bonus i am trying to get... need like 200 points but the 8th of next month lol

yeah?...


really hard to get a job now you know... so i am really just messing around you know... but.. whatever... probably get a job soon anyway

I think what BB it tryin to say is dont expect to jump right into poker and make a living at it, if you are losing your roll after a bad month then you arent ready to make it your source of income, but thats not to say you cant work towards that goal, just not to that point yet. Start at the lower limits and work your way up, if you want to work your way up you will be able to, practice good BRM and disipline yourself to stay in your limits and continue learning to play better and never know where you may be in the future..

yeah i know that... i guess it was more of a beat/ FML post.... lol


but thanks for the advice

Working your way up the limits is probably a better way of learning the game and learning more importantly bankroll management.

It also has the added advantage of not costing yourself a small fortune only to find out you suck.

You sound like you got the poker bug...good luck
When I first started "internet poker" this is what I wish I had done/heard

The first thing you need is rake back. Next Hold em manager. Then you will want to learn about bankroll Management and stick to it.

Now its reading time...Yep,reading. Many people will have different opinions on which books are the' "essential" ones. Jump over on the book forum and ask/read some reviews. Decide and get to reading. Theses forums are a gold mine of info, be here every chance you can reading strategy and hand discussions, SERIOUSLY!

Take what you have started to learn and apply it. Then constantly reevaluate your game. Gl and don't get discouraged.

thanks so much! this is so what i wanted to know...

ok well i have the free trial of hold 'em manager and to be honest it is like the party in my pants is playing poker and they are all winning. i love it. will by it when the trial is up as well... there goes another 20 lol


i haver started to read " the theorem of poker by sklansky but i think it is a little advanced for me. so i desided to get Harington on holdem should be here from the book store in abbout 2 weeks

i wish i could get rake back. but i play on pokerstars so i cant get that...

others then that i think i am going places with my poker. even tho i have to relaod for the third time lol 1st time 50$ second time 15$ 3rd time 25$


thanks for the help... everyone told me " bank roll management " without saying much else. so.


mostly likely i will buy- in for 50 and play .5/.10C limit because i have a bonus due in 2 weeks and i need a lot of points after that i probably will go back to nl

Both Ozi and Johnny are right on. I would consider waiting until Thursday or Friday to redeposit.

1. Tables will be softer then a Monday or Tuesday night.
2. If you have a Barnes and Noble or similar store take a night and head and chill and browse through a couple books.

This can really help the psyche and refresh your game not to mention learn new valuable skills. When you head out and freshen up through books it can really help put your game in perspective. It reinforces mentally the serious effort you are putting toward your end goal. You will find as you read you'll say to yourself, Yeah I saw this same situation and now understand how much more profitable it would be to play it this way etc...

3. The time gap can also help prevent one from chasing their losses.


Good luck

95% of the time you'll go bust doing that.

ya if you want to play poker as making money, research it hardcore you need the rakeback and the holdem manager for sure as stated above. and i would at least throw in at least 2 bills to get started and go from there. Ithink SNG are a good way to start cause you get use to the tight play and position. pay attn to pos a lot man its crazy how much you learn from diff ppl playing and raising in diff pos.And get those bonuses you can make mad cash with just the bonuses aND RAKEBACK WITH JUST BEING A BREAK EVEN PLAYER. just stay focused when you play and treat it as a real job dont be throwing away your whole chip stack on top pair as so many do. just study ive learned most from physical learning as how everyone plays the same in there own little way........ GL poker is the sweetest game alive by the way post above is ultimate good stuff

if you wanna clear the bonus mass multi table the 1 dollar DON's

best way to accumulate points with a small roll imo

Is the bonus amount significant enough to warrant playing in a way that is not optimal? If you think you can play the Dons and at least break even and the bonus amount is really significant enough that is a quicker way to accumulate fpps. Maybe not the best thing to do as far as long term for your game.

I'm not sure about others, but I suggest to pick a game and focus on it. Any game will increase your overall skill.

Be it HUSNG, STT, MTT (probably the worst idea), 6MAX or full ring.

Dont worry about the bonus. Just buy in for $50 and play one table of 2NL learn the game this way and play on the tighter side, less bluffs and more value bets, until you get to $100 . Then start taking shots at 5NL. IF you go back down to $50 then jump back down to 2NL if you get to $300 then start playing 10NL, and if you drop down to $150 then drop back down to 5NL.

Do this and be disciplined about it and you should be ok. Below is a tight strategy for a beginning NLH cash player.

Try to get in cheap pre flop when you are dealt medium to low pocket pairs, your goal here is to hit sets. If you miss your set then go ahead and value bet it if your pocket pair is a overpair just be careful if you get raised. If you dont flop a set and there are overcards to your pair slow down and fold to any bets.

Try to play suited connectors for cheap pre flop from 67 to KQ. If you hit top pair then value bet it and be careful when you get raised. IF you hit top two pair value bet it strong. IF you miss completely just give up the hand. If you pick up a good draw on the flop then make sure you have the correct odds and implied odds. Just dont pay to much for draws. Only play your draws for cheap or if pot odds are correct.

Play your big hands agressivley AA,KK,QQ. With pocket JJ be careful you don't overvalue but still play aggressive until you get re raised.

Try to stick with AK and AQ for now and dump other weak Ace hands like A7.
Raise preflop with AK and AQ and make one continuation bet on the flop if you miss, give up if raised. IF you still dont hit your card on the turn then try to showdown the hand and if you hit just value bet till you get raised.

When your not involved in hands try to understand your opponents. Study them and figure out if there loose passive, LAG, weak tight or TAG. Try to understand what there bets mean in all situations.

After you play this tight strategy and have more confidence then read this free ebook if you play 6max NLH. And remember this strategy only works for 6max cash games dont try this on full ring.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/ryanfee/fees6max.pdf

Hope this helps. Good Luck.

thanks this help is much needed


i have a few questions tho.

when you say 5nl and 10 nl you mean at .1/.2C blinds right... i never get this :S

also the bonus thing is 35$ witch would REALLY help my bank roll i think... but then again i don't know much. i mean i would play limit until i got the bonus then go back to nl.. wow... that just sounded like the worst plan ever after i read it back... hmmm... i might just let it go?

It seems that u didn't listen to all thouse advices about bankroll management
20$ = 20 buy-in's = 1$ buy-in = NL2(50BB buy-in)

2NL is .01/.02 5NL is .02/.05 10 NL is .05/.10
For example it is called 2NL because 100x the big blind $2 so there for it is called 2NL. 100 x.02= $2

For the bonus part just make sure your not losing more money then what the bonus is worth. Thats why i told you dont worry about the bonus. IF you think you can get the bonus without losing more then what its worth then go for it.

oh ok thanks... i might reload later then


yeah i am stupid when it comes to math lol

i thought its more simple like this: NL50 -> max buy in is 50
etc
and gl with your reload, yeah stick to brm its impossible not to go busto eventually without brm

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