Lol, because that's clearly the only 9k hands I've ever played? I said that's for my month of december, and yeah I pull in that much every month basically. Notice I never told him to play 4nl/10nl for a living, I was simply giving him an answer on how much per month it's possible to make at those stakes. Speaking of stupid, try some reading comprehension classes or something.
4-tabling is an easy 400 hands/hr, and if you have the skill to make 10bb/100 or more, it's quite likely you can 4-table. I play 2-6 depending on my mood, not sure how many hours I play in a month on average, but it's honestly not a lot. Like I said, I work full time and don't get the chance to play much.

This is total bull****.

4 tabling zoom is an easy 1k hands per hour. Why do you think 4 tabling reg tables = 400 hph = bull****? I really dont like it when people post one liners saying th eperson before them is wrong without any facts to back it up.

can make about $8/hour 18-tabling 4NL, I don't think any pro would be staying at those stakes though.

Anything up to NL25 isnt worth fulltime grinding and its good only for learning the game and moving up imo

You really think so? 400 hands is a pretty average estimate I'd say..maybe only 300-350 if the table is full of bad/slow players, but during peak hours when it's reg heavy it's not uncommon for me to reach 500 hands per hour 4 tabling.

Simply open pokerstars and check the hands/hour for FR once the table has been running for a while (im not talking about zoom, if u had that in mind - my apologies)

Yes there are some numbers above 100, BUT just as long as they're freshly seated. Later the number inevitably drops. I am playing 6max and averaging 75-85hands/table (50k sample), when FR is even slower. So there is absolutely no way you could keep 100h/hour per table in normal FR for a decent sample of hands

Chad, I also don't like lots of stuff
__________________________________________________ _____________________
EVERYTHING THAT IS WRITTEN IS MY OPINION. You are completely welcome to have your own point of view

I get 400 hands per hr 6tabling 6mx. In countries where cost of living is low 50nl is doable. Prob want min 200nl winner in countries where it more expensive to live.

Poker is tough full time is a huge waste of time playing 50nl full time. The lack of transferable skills and the lack of anything in your cv doesn't make it worth while. If your a student 50nl is fine as you will have more free time and will earn about the same hourly as a bar job, maybe more.

According to sharkscope (and they have access to all the data after all), 25-30% of SNG players are winners.

Source: http://www.sharkscopers.com/blog/the...rs-are-winners

is there a way to check avg hands/ hr in HM2? i'm curious now
edit: ah i think I found the filter, heres the pic...correct me if I'm wrong but according to this I have hours where I played over 1800 hands in an hour? Like I said I never play more than 6 tables, due to the fact I have only 1 screen...400 hands/hr doesn't look like bull**** at all to me haha

that's why poker is getting harder


people in poor countries literally have nothing to distract them from grinding low stakes and making good/easy money.


so you get a lot of eastern european's who are good players at small stakes

of course there are a bunch of donks from those places too, but the regs are more committed than the average, weed smoking, trash munching, ass scratching, western grinder.

OR is that just the number of hands i've played during those times? never tried to use these filters before so IDK

Well according to the blue line, and the fact that you're 6tabling, 1800/6= ~300 hands per hour per table (19:00-19:59)

This is truly unbelievable. For example I played today ~1500 hands and it took me 3 hours. Also 6tabling.. which is 1500/(6 tables * 3 hours) = 83 hands/table/hour

I played poker full-time in the UK for 6 years and never played any higher than 100NL.

Obviously I wasn't making great money, but the bills got paid and nobody got hurt. Up until Black Friday, my hourly rate was always > $20, which is a lot better than stacking supermarket shelves or serving drinks. Post Black Friday my hourly spiralled down to $10, at which point I figured it was time to move on. Not that the crappy jobs I've done since have paid more than $10/hour after tax.

6 years of poker has damaged my already unimpressive CV/resume, but it's not a big deal; I'm unambitious and generally lazy, so I don't feel that the opportunity cost of being a low-rent poker pro was very high for me.

There are a lot of places in the world where $10/hour is a good income, and $20/hour is aspirational. People from these countries are now filling up micro stakes ring game tables and slowly killing them. The growth areas in online poker are in relatively low GDP per capita countries who provide armies of eager young regs and very few fish with disposable income to burn.

so we can assume micros wont be profitable in couple years

i think that's total bologna quite frankly, the majority of foreigners i've seen online at the micros in the last 3-4 years have been no better or worse on average than the average american player, and certainly not as plentiful. I haven't been on stars/ftp in a long time now so i don't know how the situation is there(usa player obv) but in my last 2 years playing merge/cake/rev i've seen no such trend of foreign players coming in and jamming up the games with nittiness.

I agree, 300 hands per table per hour would be ******edly impossible to achieve, so that must not be the correct way to sort for that report in hem2 for hands/hr...hmm I wonder how you could do that, other than going through each individual session and calculating manually.. I'm well aware avg hands per hr at 9 max can scale from 45-125 depending on the table.

edit: I decided to just so it manually since it's simple arithmetic. I'm a little stoned but I think this calculates to approx 254 hands/hr, this was my largest session of the last 3 months, both in volume and time spent. Honestly can't remember how many tables I was playing at the time, and once again my lack of knowledge in HEM I can't figure out whether or not I can view this in there, but so far I can't figure it out lol.

Micro stakes will always be profitable to some degree, assuming the rake situation doesn't get any worse. The best players will always be able to succeed.

My basic point is that a smaller percentage of players attempting to take poker seriously for the first time in 2012 will be successful than those who started to take poker seriously in 2006.

You can see this in the way 2p2 functions these days. There's very little open discussion of strategy by successful players, even at levels as low as 25NL. Most people now use 2p2 to network and set up private strategy discussion groups. More sophisticated poker knowledge is now being closely guarded and sold off at a premium rather than being formulated on open discussion boards.