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08-17-2012 , 01:49 AM
Hello all,

Just joined the forum and wanted to post to introduce my style to increase bankroll, and to most importantly, obtain feedback.

I have been playing poker for awhile, and this style, or should I say, method is my favorite to increase a bankroll steadily. Results have been pretty good, usually I can turn a $20 deposit into around $200-500 in a matter of a week. Last withdrawal, I turned $20 to $500 in 2 days by this grinding structure:

Deposit $20 and hit up the $5 SNG's. Play the low level SNG's to decrease variance and slowly, but steadily, increase your bankroll. Limiting variance = key to bankroll success. Because we all know even the 7-2 off can beat the AA sometimes .

Then around $80-120, play $1-2 no limit cash tables. The only problem with this is now you have the ability to lose your entire bankroll. BUT, worst case scenario, if you do, your only losing your initial deposit of $20. And if your serious about grinding to make some cash, in my opinion, $1-2 NL cash has some serious potential to make steady gains. Especially if you can double up a few times your already at your goal.

This has been my small strategy that seems to work. Yet as a new/intermediate grinder, I have a few questions. I only single table, maybe 2 tables max. Is multi-tabling a MUST do for grinders. I feel as if it takes away a lot of the cognitive upper level thinking, such as player studying.

Any suggestions and comments would be appreciated!

GatorDonkey
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08-17-2012 , 01:55 AM
Multi tabling def not a must if playing with only 1-3 buy ins.

My favorite method is ass on hips.
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08-17-2012 , 03:59 AM
buying in for 40 bb at 1-2$ is pretty terrible, you are very likely to go bust. With 80$ you should normally be playing 4NL
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08-17-2012 , 07:13 AM
ahh takes me back to '05
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08-17-2012 , 08:10 AM
If you want to consistently win at poker you have to have good bankroll management. That means AT LEAST 20Bi in cash games. It might be fun to make 500 dollars but thats very rare and you will go busto a lot.
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08-17-2012 , 11:21 AM
How many times you done this, cos if its like 3/4 times then its more likely that you got lucky, or maybe more correctly, didnt get unlucky, which is a type of luck I suppose...
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08-17-2012 , 12:09 PM
Do you know what bankroll management is?
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08-17-2012 , 12:52 PM
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Do you know what bankroll management is?
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08-17-2012 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nismo9
Do you know what bankroll management is?
As I said, I'm a new grinder, with what I think is an intermediate skill level in poker.

Even though I could probably just google it, if you could tell me the jist of what bankroll management is I would appreciate it.

GatorDonkey
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08-17-2012 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorDonkey
As I said, I'm a new grinder, with what I think is an intermediate skill level in poker.

Even though I could probably just google it, if you could tell me the jist of what bankroll management is I would appreciate it.

GatorDonkey
Basically there is a ton of variance involved in poker. In your situation where you put your entire $80 bankroll on one table, even if you make all the correct moves and do nothing wrong its still possible to lose because of the luck factor in poker.

Bankroll management is the concept of playing game limits that wont wipe out your entire BR you out should you happen to be very unlucky for an extended period of time.

Typically people will advocate having 20 buyins for cash games as good bankroll management. So with your $80 you should be playing 0.02-0.04 tables because you have 20 buyins for that limit and you can feel very comfortable that if you lose a buyin or two or get very unlucky its not gonna hurt your bankroll too much.

I bet when you buy in to a $1/2 table your quite influenced by the fact that its your entire bankroll and you probably take that into account when making decisions eh?
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08-17-2012 , 03:24 PM
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Deposit $20 and hit up the $5 SNG's. Play the low level SNG's to decrease variance and slowly, but steadily, increase your bankroll. Limiting variance = key to bankroll success. Because we all know even the 7-2 off can beat the AA sometimes .
4 buyins for the $5 is not nearly enough. You'll lose most of the time. Start with minimum $200 at the $5 9man sngs.

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Then around $80-120, play $1-2 no limit cash tables. The only problem with this is now you have the ability to lose your entire bankroll. BUT, worst case scenario, if you do, your only losing your initial deposit of $20.
This is just wrong. If you sit with $100 and lose it all, you just lost $100. Don't delude yourself into thinking you just lost $20.

Oh, and you need about a 5k roll before you can consider actually grinding 1/2.
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08-17-2012 , 03:27 PM
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buying in for 40 bb at 1-2$ is pretty terrible, you are very likely to go bust. With 80$ you should normally be playing 4NL

+ 1

BTW

wtf is your avatar?
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08-17-2012 , 07:50 PM
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wtf is your avatar?
can only find a remix the original got removed off youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOTawi0iai0
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08-17-2012 , 08:08 PM
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Then around $80-120, play $1-2 no limit cash tables.
LOL, please nobody do this. Or at least go ahead and do it if you like but don't mistake it for a sensible grinding plan.
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08-17-2012 , 10:37 PM
What exactly is the name of this method? Reckless?.....

Even if you are a good or great player for that matter, you will absolutely go broke before building a legitimate BR for the stakes your capable of playing at. This is just luckboxing. I recommend reading the stickies at the top of the forum where you can find some great information regarding building and/or maintaining a BR. Ultimately, it is up to you how you risk your money.
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08-18-2012 , 01:45 AM
Everyone who has replied has great points, and I am learning a lot. But don't brick and mortar places usually have buy in for around $60-200 for $1-2 NL anyways?

GatorDonkey
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08-18-2012 , 01:55 AM
If you can grind $20 up to $80 - $120 playing $5 HUs in a few days....

Then why don't you just stick with $5 HU matches???

Grinding up a mini-roll and then putting it all on the table and getting it all-in as a 70/30 favorite is meh. Big deal. Nothing genuis there. Life is good when you win, but life sucks when you lose 2 or 3 in a row.

If you just stay at $5 HU matches then you chug along at a more stable rate and then you can move on to $10 HU matches and then move up to $20 HU matches...
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08-18-2012 , 06:13 AM
OP has some hard, haaaaaaard lessons ahead.
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