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Good or bad fold? Good or bad fold?

01-16-2014 , 10:53 PM
I know I played this whole hand wrong but I am interested in opinions on the fold. It felt a little like a bluff, although there are certainly some strong kings in his range here.



    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #22389851

    UTG+2: $35.74 (143 bb)
    MP1: $25 (100 bb)
    MP2: $9.41 (37.6 bb)
    MP3: $64.66 (258.6 bb)
    CO: $10 (40 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $55.33 (221.3 bb)
    SB: $24.75 (99 bb)
    BB: $12.37 (49.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with K 8
    3 folds, MP3 raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1.25, CO folds

    Flop: ($5.10) Q K 6 (2 players)
    MP3 checks, Hero bets $4.50, MP3 raises to $11.25, Hero calls $6.75

    Turn: ($27.60) J (2 players)
    MP3 bets $15.50, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $27.60 pot ($1.24 rake)
    Final Board: Q K 6 J
    MP3 mucked and won $26.36 ($13.11 net)
    Hero mucked K 8 and lost (-$13.25 net)



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    01-16-2014 , 11:37 PM
    how ppl can say if that good play or not if you dont tell as about villain.
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    01-16-2014 , 11:45 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by noobis
    how ppl can say if that good play or not if you dont tell as about villain.
    This

    I mean, it looks pretty bad but still...
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    01-16-2014 , 11:47 PM
    fold to raise on flop. probably just check fold flop. aw **** it, fold pre.

    also, well played on turn. at that everything that didn't beat you on the flop raise beats you now.
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    01-16-2014 , 11:55 PM
    Bad 3-bet pre
    Bad flop raise
    Actually the fold was the only good part of the hand.

    You don't squeeze unless you have a specific read on both vils that will lend itself to a squeeze. If you do squeeze you don't 3-bet less than a standard 3-bet as the entire point is to try to get folds.
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    01-17-2014 , 12:55 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by denks
    Bad 3-bet pre
    Bad flop raise
    Actually the fold was the only good part of the hand.

    You don't squeeze unless you have a specific read on both vils that will lend itself to a squeeze. If you do squeeze you don't 3-bet less than a standard 3-bet as the entire point is to try to get folds.
    Pre is really bad for reasons in this post, but maybe denks misread -- we didn't raise flop. Flop bet seems okay at best, depends on villains though for sure and may be horrible. Fold is probably good here but we should just fold pre.
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    01-17-2014 , 01:13 AM
    Sorry I did misread, my reading comprehension ftl. Flop is a call or fold, in a standard raised pot with 100bb I can possibly find a call however we are heading towards pot commitment territory here with top pair no kicker so Im happy with a fold - vil is effectively saying he is happy to play for stacks now and with >200bb stacks I'm not happy playing for stacks with what we have. With the squeeze not working Im very happy to check back this flop and get top pair to showdown as cheap as possible.
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    01-17-2014 , 04:41 AM
    Fold at every possible opportunity. Well, check behind the flop maybe
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    01-17-2014 , 04:53 AM
    move down imo
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    01-17-2014 , 11:02 PM
    Preflop is horrendous for reasons described. Stop doing that from now on please.
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    01-18-2014 , 05:45 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cavallo Italiano
    Preflop is horrendous for reasons described. Stop doing that from now on please.
    If you are not Daniel Negreanu lol

    Hi guys. I'm new here and don't have much practice online. But from the books I've read it is preflop fold for sure.
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