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01-21-2010 , 06:09 PM

#51

jim_money

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,421

Here is the session data I have. 90 minutes of 4 tabling 10NL rush. Played 2,135 hands and the rake was $19.56. At 27% RB that's roughly $5.

My RTR acct said it was updated, but didn't include any of the hands. Just updated now and here's what it says

Full Tilt 27 Fill_Ivy2 $29.00 $7.83 138 21-Jan-2010 11:18:50

That's from the 2135 hands posted above (19.56 in rake) and another 652 hand session (7.11 in rake).

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01-22-2010 , 12:18 AM

#52

SchererBoy

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 15,215

I think RTR sucks, if I knew about another site before I signed up for RB I woulda never went with them. They take days to show your official RB, and their customer support sucks. I get to play in their $30k freeroll this wknd, so all isn't bad. Anyone know how many ppl show up for that freeroll and how it affects RB? Their terrible customer support didn't help at all.

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01-22-2010 , 05:13 AM

#53

FireFighter

adept

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 967

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Originally Posted by ILoveMyBum

What limits? Full ring or 6 max?

10nl / FR

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01-22-2010 , 05:22 AM

#54

Gospy

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,788

The day it started I played 6.8k hands of 10NL 6 max to try it out. $98 in MGR, so like $26 in rb.

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01-22-2010 , 05:25 AM

#55

zolih

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 330

how the rake is calculated?
in HM I see I made 130$ rake in 3k hands at nl50 but after update the rakebreak.com sdays it only 20$ . wtf..

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01-22-2010 , 12:23 PM

#56

ILoveMyBum

adept

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 914

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Originally Posted by FireFighter

10nl / FR

Thanks...good stuff...looks like its around $3.50/1000 hands for FR NL10 from what I can see from different people posting their stats. That would be great!

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01-22-2010 , 04:47 PM

#57

FireFighter

adept

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 967

Yeah, I would say $3-3.50/1000 depending on rakeback hits, etc.

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01-22-2010 , 05:11 PM

#58

MisterChipster

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 482

assuming somebody has 33% rb AND a deposit bonus to clear, could they pretty much fold every hand and still make a profit?

$10NL Rush:
you pay $.15 per 9 hands in blinds.

in 9 hands, don't you think you'll make at least $.15 in bonus clearing? .01-.02 per hand, right?
it that's not enough, toss in 33% rakeback.
surly that's enough to make .15 per round, right?

it that's not enough, add in the FTP points.
if that's not enough, add in the FTP points at 2x happy hour.

if that's still not enough to make .15 every 9 hands......open our range to include AA/KK/AKs and we're literally printing money, right?

Last edited by MisterChipster; 01-22-2010 at 05:33 PM.

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01-22-2010 , 05:28 PM

#59

cpett

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 148

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Originally Posted by MisterChipster

assuming somebody has 33% rb AND a deposit bonus to clear, could they pretty much fold every hand and still make a profit?

$10NL Rush:
you pay .15 per 9 hands in blinds.
how much do you think you average in bonus clearing in 9 hands? i'd assume at least .15, right, once you factor in the .1x you'll get when somebody stacks (which is often)
toss in 33% rb for an extra couple cents.

and if that's not enough, let's open our range to include AA/KK/AKs.

am i missing something or...can i really just snapfold like 95% of hands and still make a profit assuming i have rb and a bonus to clear? honestly, it seems likely you could fold 100% and still make more with bonus/rb alone, but i think if you include the times you get AA/KK/AKs, you'd certainly show a profit?

not that it's a good hourly rate or anything but....folding 100% of hands and still making a profit would be too much fun.

lol at this being a sound strategy to beating the game. What happens when you clear your deposit bonus? Lose it all back?

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01-22-2010 , 05:52 PM

#60

MisterChipster

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 482

what's the point of your post?

i say "if you have a bonus to clear then ... " and you respond "well omg what if you don't have a bonus to clear!! WAT THEN??"

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01-23-2010 , 10:35 PM

#61

SchererBoy

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 15,215

Chipster, I think it's a great idea for clearing the bonus. Esp. when you add AA/KK/QQ/AKs. It already makes for lots of ftp's so bonus clearing will be faster than ever.

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01-23-2010 , 10:46 PM

#62

fraabru

adept

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 720

does ne1 know the numbers for when the iron man free rolls don't hit rakeback?

how many runners do the tourneys need to have to not have an overlay?

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01-23-2010 , 11:57 PM

#63

otatop

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 12,721

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Originally Posted by ILoveMyBum

Is this right?

Avg pot FR is 1.90 so rake is almost 10 cents per hand so that is 1 cent per player per hand...

27% rb is .027 per hand

1000 hands is $2.70 per 1000 hands?

Rake at 10NL on $1.90 at FTP is 12 cents.

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01-24-2010 , 03:09 AM

#64

ILoveMyBum

adept

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 914

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Originally Posted by otatop

Rake at 10NL on $1.90 at FTP is 12 cents.

Thanks so at full ring it is 12 cents/9 players = 1.333333333333 cents per player per hand...x 27% = $3.60/1000 hands rake back at NL10 full ring.

Am I right here?????

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08-02-2010 , 09:24 AM

#65

Blazed&Confused

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 127

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Originally Posted by SomethingFishy

played 9k hands of nl10 today and made probably 1k points and it was $3.63/1k hands RB for me today if that helps anyone. played roughly breakeven but the rb wil be ok

Does anyone have any numbers for $25NL?

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08-02-2010 , 10:31 AM

#66

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 75,520

for rakeback/1000 hands at 25nl:

- look at average pot
- multiply by 13.5
- divide by 9 for FR, 6 for 6max

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08-02-2010 , 11:04 AM

#67

RepresentNothing

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 449

I used to 4 table 200NL rush. Only played during peak hours, so maybe 3-5 hours a day depending on how much time I had available. As a casual player I was making 400-500 in rake a week.

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