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09-08-2009 , 03:35 PM
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Yep verified cooler
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09-08-2009 , 03:37 PM
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09-08-2009 , 03:43 PM
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Really? What if the pot after the flop has $7 in it, your opponent bets $17,000, you raise to $264,970, then he makes it $3,000,000 even. You've got $18,000,000,000 behind, and he's got you covered. Still ready to go broke with your hand?

I noticed no mention of stack sizes, or the action which took place.
LOL...Ok, In this situation I would think about folding. Using a more realistic example with standard stack sizes in relation to the blinds you should get your chips in the middle.
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09-08-2009 , 04:50 PM
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This is one of the worst arguments I've ever heard.
Not really. He was just trying to make a point that at some point stacks get deep enough you are not willing to shove anything but the nuts.

But it would help to know what % of my bankroll the 18million represents before I decide if I shove.
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09-08-2009 , 04:56 PM
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Not really. He was just trying to make a point that at some point stacks get deep enough you are not willing to shove anything but the nuts.

But it would help to know what % of my bankroll the 18billion represents before I decide if I shove.
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09-08-2009 , 05:02 PM
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id say it is. it rarely happens. bottom set < Top set
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09-08-2009 , 05:41 PM
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09-09-2009 , 11:57 AM
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Not really. He was just trying to make a point that at some point stacks get deep enough you are not willing to shove anything but the nuts.

But it would help to know what % of my bankroll the 18million represents before I decide if I shove.
The example he gave is fractally wrong, meaning wrong in multiple ways and irrelevant for multiple reasons. You will never, ever be in a game with a stack that deep. Even more realistically, you should never be sitting with a stack that you can't put in when you raise pf with suited connectors and flop a straight. On top of that, you should never be sitting with a stack that you can't afford to lose. His example will never happen, both due to the constraints of reality and the constraints of everything that constitutes intelligent poker play, and distracts from those ideas on top of it. It is absolutely horrible.
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09-14-2009 , 08:04 AM
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The example he gave is fractally wrong, meaning wrong in multiple ways and irrelevant for multiple reasons. You will never, ever be in a game with a stack that deep. Even more realistically, you should never be sitting with a stack that you can't put in when you raise pf with suited connectors and flop a straight. On top of that, you should never be sitting with a stack that you can't afford to lose. His example will never happen, both due to the constraints of reality and the constraints of everything that constitutes intelligent poker play, and distracts from those ideas on top of it. It is absolutely horrible.
Alright, ya got me. Let's knock the stacks down to a billion even to keep it within normal proportion.
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