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feel sad when you do not play a hand which could have doubled/tripled up your chipstacks? feel sad when you do not play a hand which could have doubled/tripled up your chipstacks?

06-24-2010 , 08:33 AM
for example,

i am on the BB with 52 off. someone from late position raised it 3x. I folded my marginal hand.one guy called

then, he and the other guy went all in after the flop

there is a Q57 on the flop. the turn is 5 and the river is 2.

I could have tripled up my chips. I just feel sad that I could have become a chip leader if i play that hand.

has something like this happened to you guys? what is your reaction? do you go on tilt after that?
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06-24-2010 , 08:38 AM
It's about understanding how you win at poker that will help you with this. You do not win at poker by winning individual hands or pots, but by making +ev plays in the long term. If you put all your chips in for example getting even money on the flop with an OESD it doesn't matter if you win the pot or not, you've just lost money.

On full tilt if you had have played your hands the board would have been different because you would have affected the timing of the hand. This shouldn't matter because if you understand the first point I made about poker being a long term game, it really doesn't matter what cards are dealt.

Make +ev plays profit.
Make -ev plays and win a pot - lose money.

It's that simple!
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06-24-2010 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by IwillSucceed
It's about understanding how you win at poker that will help you with this. You do not win at poker by winning individual hands or pots, but by making +ev plays in the long term. If you put all your chips in for example getting even money on the flop with an OESD it doesn't matter if you win the pot or not, you've just lost money.

On full tilt if you had have played your hands the board would have been different because you would have affected the timing of the hand. This shouldn't matter because if you understand the first point I made about poker being a long term game, it really doesn't matter what cards are dealt.

Make +ev plays profit.
Make -ev plays and win a pot - lose money.

It's that simple!
hey, thanks a lot. i will write that down
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06-24-2010 , 09:52 AM
just convince yourself that the flop wouldve been different had u called
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06-24-2010 , 09:53 AM
this is something that we all feel when we start but you quickly get over it. You begin to understand that is how fish think. Focus on decisions not results
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06-24-2010 , 09:59 AM
Oh man, I can't tell you how many times this has happened to me! I am convinced that the main reason alot of people don't win isn't bad play, or suckouts, or even bad beats..... it's missed opportunities.
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06-24-2010 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoJoMo
Oh man, I can't tell you how many times this has happened to me! I am convinced that the main reason alot of people don't win isn't bad play, or suckouts, or even bad beats..... it's missed opportunities.
A lot of reasons people don't win is reasoning like this that holds them back from progressing.

Quit being results oriented, learn to make +EV plays based on equity and other factors in your respective games and you will be a winner just like anyone can be. It takes practice and effort to overcome being results oriented but you will be satisfied in the end.
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06-24-2010 , 10:20 AM
I had 2 opportunities to triple my stack yesterday. Once I had 1010 and there were 3 all ins. I folded of course. The hands were 77, 99, AQsuited. My 10s would have held up. 2nd time I had QQ, there were 4 other people all in. JJ, KK, AA, AKs. I would have flopped a Q, then the turn was the case Q. AKs actually won, rivered a flush. I just dont see myself shoving just because i have a PP and I'm getting odds. Against 4 other people. Its just a coin flip.
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06-24-2010 , 10:23 AM
yea thats always tilt inducing for me, especially one time i raised with QQ and i was re reraised, there was another reraise, and i think some idiot shoving with a full stack with something really dumb, i didnt have any stats so i had to fold, but anyway the flop was QQx, wasnt too happy seeing that
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06-24-2010 , 10:38 AM
You have to think long term to get over this. The more hands you play the more you'll understand. Once you fold it is irrelevant what cards come out. As long as the decision at the time to call/raise or fold was the correct one taking everything into account then that WILL make you a profit over time.

Dont look back in anger..

Fold, move on.
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06-24-2010 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by muqs87
for example,

i am on the BB with 52 off. someone from late position raised it 3x. I folded my marginal hand.one guy called

not even a marginal hand. Utter trash.
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06-24-2010 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by muqs87

I could have tripled up my chips. I just feel sad that I could have become a chip leader if i play that hand.

has something like this happened to you guys? what is your reaction? do you go on tilt after that?
It's because you didn't play the hand that you might still become a chip leader in the medium to long term.
Try keeping track of all the times you fold a hand because it is too weak and, sure enough, the following streets don't give you what you needed to win. You'll find they out weight the opposite examples by far.
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06-24-2010 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RyverRat
You have to think long term to get over this. The more hands you play the more you'll understand. Once you fold it is irrelevant what cards come out. As long as the decision at the time to call/raise or fold was the correct one taking everything into account then that WILL make you a profit over time.

Dont look back in anger..

Fold, move on.
This is VERY good advice. Once you fold; your hand is dead. Fold and move on. I'm new and im not that good @ poker. but I believe 1 of the keys to being a winning player is discipline.

Last edited by BUKII; 06-24-2010 at 12:38 PM. Reason: grammar
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06-24-2010 , 01:11 PM
The answer is always did you make the right play based on the situation. When someone raises you in the BB and you see 52o then that hand is unplayable. Making the right decisions over time will make you money.

Ok, you may have tripled your stack there. But how many bets over the long term would you lose if you started calling with 52o. Many many more than what you would ahve won on the rare hand.
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06-24-2010 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by muqs87
for example,

i am on the BB with 52 off. someone from late position raised it 3x. I folded my marginal hand.one guy called

then, he and the other guy went all in after the flop

there is a Q57 on the flop. the turn is 5 and the river is 2.

I could have tripled up my chips. I just feel sad that I could have become a chip leader if i play that hand.

has something like this happened to you guys? what is your reaction? do you go on tilt after that?
do you play on FTP ?
happens all the time. If you played that 52o garbage hand, flop would be AKQs

I used to get upset like you but think of the times u had JJ+ and someone with 66- flopped a set and busted you.

On a serious note,

I try to observe what and when those people shoved with, who called or how they played their hands and what they showed down and try to get some info.
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06-24-2010 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dubakkur
do you play on FTP ?
happens all the time. If you played that 52o garbage hand, flop would be AKQs

I used to get upset like you but think of the times u had JJ+ and someone with 66- flopped a set and busted you.

On a serious note,

I try to observe what and when those people shoved with, who called or how they played their hands and what they showed down and try to get some info.
no. it happened last night in live nightly tourney at Rio.
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06-24-2010 , 05:02 PM
You feel bad for folding 52o? LOL, even if the flop came 5 5 5 I still wouldn't feel bad..
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06-24-2010 , 05:05 PM
its about making the right decisions at the right time, and folding 52o in this spot is defo the right decision.
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06-24-2010 , 06:08 PM
i play rush so i don't notice tbqh
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