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Is this ever a hero call? Is this ever a hero call?

03-18-2019 , 06:50 AM
Seriously, should a brother starting calling these spots. It is so discouraging having to constantly fold here.

The next time this happens I'll probably call. Based on the fact that the previous time this happened most of you were favoring a call.

Why would they ever 15x pot without a better flush or a full house here tho, I just don't see it.

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 5 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $1.25 (63 bb)
CO: $2.08 (104 bb)
BU: $1.56 (78 bb)
SB: $2.00 (100 bb)
BB (Hero): $2.31 (116 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with 7 2
2 players fold, BTN calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.05) 3 4 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.02, Hero calls $0.02

Turn: ($0.09) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($0.09) K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.04, BTN raises to $1.52 (all-in), BB (Hero) folds
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03-18-2019 , 07:23 AM
Yes, stop calling the flop. What’s the best outcome for you at that point?
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03-18-2019 , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by moxiepilot
What’s the best outcome for you at that point?
Best outcome would be to make top boat with 7 turn, 7 river and having a snap call when villain shoves.

Lots of other good outcomes are hero making the flush and collecting one more bet. That’s the second most likely outcome after him having to check/fold turn or whiffing the river after check/check turn. Another not unlikely outcome is that hero misses, but gets villain to fold on the river after check/check turn because his BB range probably includes way more hands that hit the flop than villains button open limp range.

As played, the 7-high flush as a pure bluff catcher isn’t a very good hand on a paired board so you should fold unless you’ve seen villain get massively out of line before.
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03-18-2019 , 07:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by moxiepilot
Yes, stop calling the flop. What’s the best outcome for you at that point?
I disagree with the call since I feel I should've raised there instead. I don't think a fold would be right there, with the board and considering its a limped pot.

I am flipping against a button open range. Against a button limp range, I can't help but feel I wouldn't be doing too badly either.

Was it really that bad of a call?
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03-18-2019 , 09:38 AM
You're allowed to bet the flop yourself.
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03-18-2019 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Best outcome would be to make top boat with 7 turn, 7 river and having a snap call when villain shoves.

Lots of other good outcomes are hero making the flush and collecting one more bet. That’s the second most likely outcome after him having to check/fold turn or whiffing the river after check/check turn. Another not unlikely outcome is that hero misses, but gets villain to fold on the river after check/check turn because his BB range probably includes way more hands that hit the flop than villains button open limp range.

As played, the 7-high flush as a pure bluff catcher isn’t a very good hand on a paired board so you should fold unless you’ve seen villain get massively out of line before.
Thank you, I completely agree with this. This is one of the first hands I played against villain. Happy to know my thinking isn't completely flawed.
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