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05-22-2018 , 11:46 PM

Cfoye

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Hypothetically if you had a 20 seater 2 table sit n go and 1 table was full of pros and the other was full of noobs making mistakes with each other constantly my question is if I get seated with the pro regs will I still somehow indirectly benefit from the noobs playing with each other in the other sandpit?

As opposed to if the tables were a perfect mix of skill levels. In the long term will it even matter what table I sit at in the first example?

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05-23-2018 , 02:47 AM

Duncelanas

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You'll indirectly benefit from so many fish in the game (fish will get added to your table when they balance, and you have some chance to get shorthanded vs fish towards endgame), but probably not enough to offset the fact that you're at a table with all solid players and no fish playing deeper.

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05-23-2018 , 12:19 PM

answer20

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The one benefit I would expect to see is that eventually a 'bad' player will have a lot of chips to disperse to the rest of the tournament players while playing with the Pros may force you to play more conservatively and possibly preserve your stack when you get a shot at the others.

Typically in poker there is no benefit to sitting down with players of a higher skill level, but to have 'all' the bad players coolering themselves so you have less of them to worry about may be a small benefit. On the flip side, if the bad players were mixed into the Pros (as table balancing will force anyway) then those coolers may happen to the Pros, thus weakening the field for you. GL

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05-23-2018 , 01:05 PM

statmanhal

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Typically, if you get to the final table, you’ll be playing against mostly pros – that can’t be avoided. So, the issue is getting to the final table and that is much more likely sitting at a mixed table initially than at a table with only pros. The ideal would be sitting initially at a table with only fish.

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05-23-2018 , 03:48 PM

Kelvis

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Obviously you want to start out on the noob table.

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05-23-2018 , 04:01 PM

WereBeer

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Originally Posted by Cfoye

Hypothetically if you had a 20 seater 2 table sit n go and 1 table was full of pros and the other was full of noobs making mistakes with each other constantly my question is if I get seated with the pro regs will I still somehow indirectly benefit from the noobs playing with each other in the other sandpit?

As opposed to if the tables were a perfect mix of skill levels. In the long term will it even matter what table I sit at in the first example?

You will benefit when noobs get sent to the final table. This is a direct benefit. You don't benefit before that, indirectly or otherwise, unless meta-reasons come into play.

In the long term (and also the short term) of course it matters which table you sit because you have a choice of beating up noobs or getting cut up by better players.

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05-24-2018 , 10:25 PM

ArtyMcFly

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Originally Posted by Kelvis

Obviously you want to start out on the noob table.

This.

If you were playing the WSOP Main Event, there are a ton of whales in the field - and that "dead money" is what leads to a high average ROI - but if your first table is full of pros, you'll be on the TV table, but you're very unlikely to have 5x your starting stack at the end of day 1.
(Unless Vanessa Selbst misplays aces full when you obviously have quads).

You make money by playing worse players as often as possible. To some degree, the final table is just about winning flips.

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