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Effective stacks: are they considered "before" blinds post and bets or "after" them? Effective stacks: are they considered "before" blinds post and bets or "after" them?

09-12-2011 , 08:08 PM
Thank you
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09-12-2011 , 08:14 PM
yes
Effective stacks: are they considered "before" blinds post and bets or "after" them? Quote
09-12-2011 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by uganation
yes
what yes? before or after?
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09-12-2011 , 08:25 PM
I *think* it refers to before blinds are posted, however unless you are very short stacked (maybe late in a tourney situation, not a tourney player so don't know) it effectively will make very little difference.
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09-12-2011 , 10:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36SQT...e_gdata_player

Before, during, after, every turn
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09-13-2011 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Syon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36SQT...e_gdata_player

Before, during, after, every turn
hope that clarifies my original and still applicable answer to the OP "yes"
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09-13-2011 , 10:18 AM
I think "effective stacks" are re-evaluated as the hand progresses, just as "win odds" change as more cards are revealed.

When the 78% preflop AA runs into a 56789 board, you're no longer a 78% favorite to win.
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09-13-2011 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ractar
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When the 78% preflop AA runs into a 56789 board, you're no longer a 78% favorite to win.
Would have been nice of you to tell me this yesterday! I also just found out that my 44 did not make a monster 3 pair hand that I thought I had on a J7KKJ board
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09-13-2011 , 02:46 PM
At the beginning of the hand. The blind size has no effect on effective stacks because it is so small that doesn't count. Three players go to the flop with the following stacks each:

Game 1/2 NL
Dude1=$350
Dude2=275
Dude3=$850

Effective stacks (ES) are $275 or 137bb.
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09-13-2011 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PapaPyrite
Would have been nice of you to tell me this yesterday! I also just found out that my 44 did not make a monster 3 pair hand that I thought I had on a J7KKJ board
Blame the OP for not posting his question a day earlier.
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09-13-2011 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by always_tilting
At the beginning of the hand. The blind size has no effect on effective stacks because it is so small that doesn't count. Three players go to the flop with the following stacks each:

Game 1/2 NL
Dude1=$350
Dude2=275
Dude3=$850

Effective stacks (ES) are $275 or 137bb.
Effective stacks for DUDE2 are 275. Dude1 can still win 350 from dude3.
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09-13-2011 , 03:03 PM
And blind size DOES have an effect on determing effective stacks. There are numerous variations of blinds and straddles that effect the odds of playing a hand, especially in a tournament where blinds will at some point have a great impact on stacks.
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