Hello,

I post this also in About The Forum. This section seems more viewed. I have successfully tried posting hands before, now same method fails. Is there a change in protocol or am I failing to do something.

I cut paste history into box that appears when I click Click to expand? No message of error, just empty space where old hand would be.

Thank you.

As note, to the men who run this section. You may delete this as soon as it is corrected, thank you.

Post the hh unedited

try refreshing the page and then trying it again

Get your own Mr. ****ing Giblet thread





















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Hello,

I have been told to use this converter. Also, I am not interested in disclosing my Screen-name.

I refreshed, and nothing.

Perhaps I will try later.

Thank You.

replace the names with psudonyms and post it unconverted. gogogogo I'll mangle it into a convertible shape

*** THIS IS JUST A TEST ***


Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t75 - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (SB): t10370 M = 4.61
BB: t14629 M = 6.50
UTG: t14750 M = 6.56
MP: t15918 M = 7.07
CO: t6500 M = 2.89
BTN: t5333 M = 2.37

Pre Flop: (t2250) Hero is SB with 8 A
3 folds, BTN raises to t5258 all in, Hero raises to t10295 all in, BB calls t9095

Flop: (t26298) 8 J 2 (3 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t26298) 8 (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t26298) 7 (3 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t26298
Hero shows 8 A (three of a kind, Eights)
BB shows A A (two pair, Aces and Eights)
BTN shows K K (two pair, Kings and Eights)
Hero wins t10074
Hero wins t16224

Thank you for the offer, though I want to correct what I am apparently doing wrong, as you have just posted a Hand History.

You see the output, yes? I thought perhaps it was there though I could not see it but when I preview the post, nothing.


Here is what I am doing, tell me if in this procedure there is a mistake:

I copy the hand from Poker Stars history into Notepad.
Cut Paste into Click to Expand Box. Hit convert. Nothing.

I copy the hand history from Poker Tracker. Paste into click to expand box, hit convert. Nothing.

I try to convet before a botched history and was given response. Poor Data, or Insuficent. Now, though Nothing. Simply empty white space.

try this link to an external hh converter: http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

select 2+2 as the output format and then cut and paste directly into a reply, preview it to see if it worked

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($3.20)
BB ($1.58)
UTG ($2.86)
UTG+1 ($3)
MP1 ($1.97)
Hero (MP2) ($2)
CO ($3.14)
Button ($4.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, Q
3 folds, Hero bets $0.08, CO calls $0.08, 1 fold, SB calls $0.07, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.26) 7, 3, 9 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.10, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold

Turn: ($0.46) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.10, CO calls $0.10

River: ($0.66) K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

Total pot: $1.06 | Rake: $0.05

Results:
Hero mucked Q, Q (two pair, Queens and threes).
CO had K, J (two pair, Kings and threes).
Outcome: CO won $1.01


OK, Thank you. Though I do want to find out what I am doing wrong/different with the primary method.

glad it worked.

have you tried the inbuilt one with another hh? if another one works forgedaboudit.

edit: and while i'm at it bet more on the flop and bet more on the turn, like 20c and 30/35c respecitbely

I seem to remember that Mr. Giblet is playing live and manually entering his data. The hand converter accepts only specific formats from internet sites and possibly from specific software. If the hand converter cannot recognize the format of the hand history provided it will not give a useable result (or possibly give no result).

Similarly, I play more live poker than internet and have had similar issues with posts.

Mr. Giblet, I suggest that you may have to enter the information long hand. Here is something of a template for you (and now me) to use that will allow an output that is close enough to the hand converter output that your posts should be easy for people to follow. To start cut and paste the text between the rows of *'s into a word processing program and save it on your computer. You will then copy and paste that blank template into the forum post and edit in your specifics.

*********************************

Insert Game format and Blinds Here

SB = insert stack size
BB = insert stack size
EP1 = insert stack size
EP2 = insert stack size
EP3 = insert stack size
MP1 = insert stack size
MP2 = insert stack size
LP1 = insert stack size
CO = insert stack size
BTN = insert stack size

Pre-flop action
EP1 insert action
EP2 insert action
EP3 insert action
MP1 insert action
MP2 insert action
LP1 insert action
CO insert action
BTN insert action
SB insert action
BB insert action

Insert pot size at flop Flop insert actual cards

Post-flop action
SB insert action
BB insert action
EP1 insert action
EP2 insert action
EP3 insert action
MP1 insert action
MP2 insert action
LP1 insert action
CO insert action
BTN insert action

Insert pot size at turn Turn insert actual card

Turn action
SB insert action
BB insert action
EP1 insert action
EP2 insert action
EP3 insert action
MP1 insert action
MP2 insert action
LP1 insert action
CO insert action
BTN insert action

Insert pot size at River River insert actual card

River action
SB insert action
BB insert action
EP1 insert action
EP2 insert action
EP3 insert action
MP1 insert action
MP2 insert action
LP1 insert action
CO insert action
BTN insert action

Showdown
SB insert cards
BB insert cards
EP1 insert cards
EP2 insert cards
EP3 insert cards
MP1 insert cards
MP2 insert cards
LP1 insert cards
CO insert cards
BTN insert cards

*********************************

NOTES:
1) Insert the word "Hero" before your position or in place of the position in all rows applicable to you.
2) Make note of your cards in all rows in which your action appears.
3) After noting that a player has folded, you can delete rows corresponding to that table position in regards to later action.
4) if the hand is not played to showdown or the point of your question takes place at a specific point in the hand you can delete all rows after that point.

Hope this helps.


Then again while I was typing this, you figured it out.. Great.

Hello,

I no longer Play Live. I play the minuscule blind levels online. On Poker Stars. I will find it difficult to reload and as such I play with many buy ins.

I have posted like others have said, in the past with no difficulties. Today is different.

Glad you got it to work. Maybe I will see you at the tables. Although, I suspect I won't know it is you.

your BET sizing makes me WANA kill kittens

As any limit player knows you double the bet on the turn

yea i know. how do people override the software. i can only bet in fixed amounts. and only 1 bet and 3 raises are allowed wtf. how do i override the software to bet random amounts

.22 on flop

.40 on turn

check call river to a small bet i guess...

Ok, this is straying from the original purpose of this thread, but.....

I both agree and disagree.

Where I disagree.....
4x the BB seems reasonable pre-flop.

Where I agree......
The post-flop bet is too small...it looks to be a probe bet and you want a continuation bet (representing the strength you showed pre-flop) or a value bet (because you feel you have the best hand). Against a single opponent you might get away with as little as half the pot ($.13) as a continuation bet but against 2 players a larger bet is needed (I have yet to do the math but my gut says about $.20 is right).

You are likely to be raising pre-flop with high cards and high pairs all of which missed this flop. The probe bet gives away that you missed the flop and asks if your opponent did as well. A continuation or value bet says either you hit this flop or the fact that you missed this flop is irrelevant because your hand is that strong.

As played you are giving your opponent 3.6:1 odds. He needs to win only 21.8% of the time to profitably call. If you missed the flop or are still drawing, pairing either of his cards may make him the best hand or he may have the best hand already. While even with this optimistic thought process your opponent is still wrong to call heads up (he has less than a 15% chance to improve). BUT, there are the implied odds of a player yet to act and future betting rounds. By calling the remaining player is getting 4.6:1 to call (he needs to win less than 18% of the time to make a call profitable) and is thus likely to call. After all, if you have AA and you opponent has a lower pair you are only a 4.5:1 favorite. You don't have aces, you have queens, so if aces needed to give smaller odds, you definitely need to give smaller odds.

The 3rd player folding getting 4.6:1 is likely a mistake on his part. The fact that you offered the odds that put him in a position to be able to profitably call with any pair at all is just as big an error (if not bigger).

The call by your 1st opponent it is at least defensible but probably reasonable.

Now the math for what heads up is a pretty standard half the pot continuation bet. Your 1st opponent is getting 3:1 odds. He needs to win more than 25% of the time to call profitably. Again, there is still a player to act behind him that will be getting 4:1 ($.13 into a $.52 pot) if he calls. So the implied odds for the 1st opponent this betting round are equal to the pot odds given the 2nd opponent should the 1st opponent call. Now he only needs to win just over 20% to profitably call. Turn and river bets are typically larger than bets on the earlier streets so the implied odds for later betting again make this a defensible call. Say he feels the remaining opponent will call the flop and fold the turn should a jack or king fall and feels you will check the turn but bet $.20 on the river, he is getting implied odds of 6:1 and only needs 14.3% to profitably call.

A good call? Questionable. But a defensible call. The reasonit is defensible is the additional player and the future betting rounds (i.e the implied odds). Which is why continuation and value bets against multiple players need to be larger.

Now, the math for my gut response (and we'll see how bad I am). Betting $.20 gives your opponent 2.3:1 odds, He needs to win 33.1% of the time to call profitably. With less than 15% chance to improve this is a bad call heads up. Does that change if the player behind him calls? If the player behind him calls he is wagering $.20 for a $.66 pot making the implied odds for just this round 3.3:1. He needs to win more than 23.25% of the time for this to be profitable. Hmm.... this may still be a borderline call. A bet of $.20 (twice the size of your bet) may also be too small. If he makes the same assumptions about a king or jack and the doubled bet and turn fold by the 3rd player he is getting 5.3:1 so he needs to win 15.88% of the time to make the call profitable. So the minimum correct bet size is probably $.20 and TBobLP's $.22 suggestion is better still.

OK, so we live with how we play and the bet was too small on the flop. Time to correct that error and make better decisions on the turn. There is $.46 in the pot we have 1 caller. The board has paired 3's.

Is your opponent likely to have improved with a 3? No. the only way your opponent improved with the 3 is if he had pocket 3's in which case you were in bad shape already or if he has 2 hearts. A3 and K3 are possible but unlikely calling a 4BB bet. Does he have Pocket 3's? Unlikely, while he may have called with them and may be slowplaying quads, the odds are 220:1 against. Does he have 2 hearts? Possibly, but even if he does you are still ahead. So what is likely...He has an ace, a king or both (3-6 outs), he has 2 hearts (7 -9 outs as an ace and/or king in his hand may or may not be a heart)...so between 3 and 15 outs...kind of a large range but with only 1 card to come. If your opponent has a full 15 outs with AK (your worst case scenario if he is drawing) you are a 68.18% favorite with 1 card to come (2.125:1). In order to deny your opponent the odds to call profitably on the turn you need to bet $.41 or more. If you opponent has fewer outs you can get away with a smaller bet but to be certain that you are not offering the correct odds to the hand most likely to draw out you need to bet at least $.41.

If you opponent calls this bet and an over card or heart falls you are going to try to check the hand down. If your opponent bets small, you are going to be unhappy but probably have to call unless you have a good read on this opponent.

However, facing a nearly pot sized bet with 1 card to come and only 2 overs to the board, would your opponent have called? And even if he does, he has made the wrong play and if you continue to make good betting decisions and he continues to make bad calls you will come out ahead.

Have you tried switching the editor mode before converting?

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