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10-06-2010 , 11:30 AM
This is my pooh-bah post, i put it in mirco stakes, but as i post in here, i though i would post in here too

Firstly- THIS IS NOT GROUND BREAKING NEWS

Secondly- 99% of Ubbver’s/Brewer’s+ good players know this ****

I’m putting this bit into a spoiler, as it’s a bit of a background to where I sort of had a bit of a aaaaahhh moment, its totally irrelevant, so you can skip it

also, i typed this up very quickly in my lunch break, there will be lots of spelling mistakes, and probably some flaws in my thinking, but so ****, ahaha

IF YOU ARE FAT OR EASILY OFFENDED TO THIS/OUR SENSTIVE, DO NOT READ THIS AS IT MAY OR MAY NOT OFFEND YOU

Spoiler:
So I’m in the gym, about to run a grand total of 8km, bearing in mind, I love my drink, have an office job, and I’m the old age of 25, I climb aboard the treadmill, hit her up to 6km/h for my warm up minute, I look around the gym, no talent, booo, notice there’s no music playing, booooo!! Look infront of me, **** all on the tv, not good I thought. I can hear these constant/loud/annoying voices having a full conversation with each other, its close, I look directly to my left and see 2 fat bastards, one walking, I’m guessing 2-3km/h, the other looking at her, standing on the treadmill, doing **** all, except tilting me with a conversation about how fat someone she went to school with, huh, look at the mirror! **** me sideways I think, look at the clock 30 sec’s, I’m tilted very hard already, 30 ****ing seconds. So to keep me stable for the next 46 ½ minutes, I think to myself,


WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GOOD REG AND A BAD REG

At first, I start thinking

Well, ldo, a good reg makes money, a bad reg loses moneys, easy

True

Why is this??

Well, hmmm, a good reg will value bet more, hand read more, maybe 3bet more, hmm, easy again!! This is all true, but the bad reg does this all to, the bad reg 3bets light/value, the bad regs triple/double barrels value bets, to a certain extent they hand read, so how come he still loses moneys

Hmmmmmm

Blank stare forward, 2minutes on the clock

Well hmmm, I know, a good reg makes less mistakes than a bad reg, bingo I think, this is true, but why is this. Surely its pretty easy to make less mistakes,

Hmmm, then boom, its clicks

The difference between a good reg and a bad reg is

Spoiler:
HIS/HER SOLID THOUGHT PROCESS


Bad regs, simply, click buttons, without putting hardly any thought into the situation. They rarely, rarely, even analyse a situation. They look down and see 2 cards, and either cum, or auto fold.

A good reg, however, will subconsciously, will look at positions, stack sizes, recent image, recent pots, there card strength, there stats, his stats, and a super side load of variables, and come up with a plan

Take this simple every day situation
Utg= fish
CO= standard weak-tight reg with 19/17 type stats

UTG: $35
MP: $55
CO: $63.23
Hero: $72.15
SB: $50.00
BB: $65.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with junkish hands
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP raises $2, Hero ????

So, the bad reg is easy, he looks at his cards, probably before anything has happens, and instant snap folds

Before you read spoiler, tell me, truthfully, what did u auto do

Spoiler:
Good reg, will look at the situation and probably say out loud, or at least think
Right, what’s happens here
Fish limps with a nice stack size, reg isolates in the CO with a wide range, I can 3bet light here, and take down a ton of dead money, as the reg folds to a lot of 3bets. He will not use this plan all the time BUT, he thought about it, he actually put a bit of thought in to, he didn’t just auto-muck, he analyse the most standard of a situation, and thought about making money………


Another STANDARD situation


UTG ($50)
Hero ($50)
BTN ($50.16)
SB ($30.04)
BB ($40)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is BB A Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50,BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: A K 3 ($3.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $x, BTN calls $x

Turn: 7 ($xx, 2 players)
Hero ??

Reads, villain is tag-ish type player with something like 20/17 stats

Bad player, looks at the board, looks at his tag stats, and value bets, he probably hits his 2/3 pot button on the flop and turn,

easy, this is a standard situation mark- you’re a prick, who wouldn’t do this

Good player, looks at positions, knows he can be floating this board wide especially IP, as we will cbet it relentlessly with almost 100% of our opening range. He will look at his fold to cbet, and if he notices its very low, and notices his high fold to turn bet, and notices he bets lots on the turn. HE WILL LOOK AT THIS, he doesn’t auto pilot bet/bet. He looks, he sees, he then instantly understands how we exploit the complete bollix out of this reg,

We cbet BIG, we c/raise, or c/c ALL turns with our value hands
Or
We cbet BIG, then we double barrel all our air

Why is this, its simple, he doesn’t respect cbets, so he floats a lot, so we exploit this, by betting bet as he calls too much, then we either allow him to bluff us off our value hands, ahaha, or we double barrel to make him fold all his weak range that he floats with. Simple

Even if u don’t use stats, a good player will have some reads on all player, every after 30 hands, you can get reads on players actions- ESPECIALLY FISH DONK BETS/BETSIZING

How many bad regs even thought for a split second about anything, about exploiting players, about getting max value, they just see there own card strength, and hit random buttons, they double barrel, reg folds, and they go to next hand without thinking about anything at all

Another really simple situation,

You face a standard cbet IP,
99% of bad players will look at there own card strength and will fold out air, and continue strongish, aka top pair, or w/e
A good player, will look at the bet size, is this a bet size this particular player would use as a bluff, for value, he will look at positions, stack sizes, board texture, think of his Preflop action/sizing etc etc, and make a decision, he will not click a button randomly, without at least weighting up how much equity he has, how much this player will c/f the turn, he will look at turn bet stats, he will have reads on the player, and he will float very light to steal turns, he will raise him when he has equity,

STOP, LOOK, THINKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK, ANALYSIS THE SITUATION FULLY, MAKE READS, USE READS, EXPLIOT

Stop auto piloting, think about bet sizes, think about ranges, think about positions, think about tendencies, JUST F U C KING THINK, and enjoy yourself

just some random thoughts i had, and thought i would share with the bad regs, fwiw, take it with a pinch of salt

Spoiler:
Ooo btw, the 2 fat ****ers ****ed off after about 15minutes, to my relief- they were replaced by a skinny blonde with big tittes, makes running so much easier looking at the reflection on the window of her tits bouncing, ahahahaha


should add

just because you think about decisions wont make you a winning player, but it will help your game greatly, it will help you find leaks, if you strenghten your thought process about why your doing xyz, it will help your win rate imo!

feel free to add any thoughts yourself
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10-06-2010 , 11:39 AM
..Reading this is +EV. Could use an edit to clean it up when you get home though. Thanks for sharing.
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10-06-2010 , 02:46 PM
This post encouraged me to ask the following question at the micro limit forum. But I'll ask it here again as the answers might vary for NL.

Well,
I believe making correct decisions is key to winning at any aspect of life and also in poker (though making wrong decisions can be awarding for a short time but in the long term it usually does not).

I'm trying to get together a "standardish" approach to making decisions at poker on every street. I believe this will help me concentrate more and think things I should think everytime I need to make a decision.

To accomplish this I need a step by step list
ie: Step1. Consider this
Step2. Check that
....
StepX. Make your move.

What I can think of from my limited knowledge & experience at poker is below.
I need you to help me add / remove / re-order the steps.

Code:
Step1. Know your position (early, mid, late, bb, etc)
Step2. Check how many players are in
Step3. Check who is in (a LAG, a TAG, a Fish etc)
Step4. What are your pocket cards? What is their rank?
Step5. What does the board show?
Step6. What can be the nuts now, what can they be at the end of river?
Step7. What is your shot to the nuts?
Step8. How many outs do you have?
Step9. What are your odds to make your hand?
Step10. What is the pot odds?
Step11. What is the current pot odd vs hand odd ratio?
Step12. Does implied odds help you to continue?
Step13. What is your short-term (+ long term if there are regs) table image like?
Step14. Make the decision (Raise, Fold or Call)
Thank you!
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10-08-2010 , 07:54 AM
thats a lot of things to be thinking about at the table imo

you can cut it down, buts its a list of things, i would say in average, the avergae mircostakes players does like 1 of these, which is auto go,

i has nothing i fold,
i has a air i call
I has a set or better i raise

trying to remember to do this in every single spot is hard work, but it would probably help your game alot to do must of these things
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10-08-2010 , 09:22 AM
Good post man I liked it a lot. Bookmarked so I can reread later.
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10-08-2010 , 11:36 AM
thanks man

the basic point of it, is, to stop auto piloting and start thinking abt bet sizes, ranges, stack sizes etc etc, it will help u greatly

especially if u get used to anylase the sitution instead of mucking or w/e
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10-08-2010 , 11:40 AM
Similarities between good regs and bad regs.

Both think they're good regs.
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10-08-2010 , 11:41 AM
By the way, good points. I skipped the spoilers this time.
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10-08-2010 , 12:02 PM
POOH-BAH!
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10-08-2010 , 12:13 PM
good post!
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