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02-08-2015 , 04:27 PM
I was actually thinking not long before this hand happened, 'i need to stop jamming the turn and river when i miss'





    Poker Stars, $3 Buy-in (50/100 blinds, 10 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #34729401

    UTG+2: 4,572 (45.7 bb)
    MP1: 6,082 (60.8 bb)
    MP2: 2,391 (23.9 bb)
    MP3: 2,223 (22.2 bb)
    Hero (CO): 5,648 (56.5 bb)
    BTN: 3,930 (39.3 bb)
    SB: 6,619 (66.2 bb)
    BB: 2,315 (23.2 bb)
    UTG+1: 2,100 (21 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K Q
    5 folds, Hero raises to 240, BTN folds, SB calls 190, BB folds

    Flop: (670) T 6 J (2 players)
    SB bets 200, Hero raises to 600, SB raises to 1,000, Hero calls 400

    Turn: (2,670) 6 (2 players)
    SB bets 500, Hero calls 500

    River: (3,670) T (2 players)
    SB bets 800, Hero raises to 3,898 and is all-in, SB calls 3,098

    Spoiler:
    Results: 11,466 pot
    Final Board: T 6 J 6 T
    Hero showed K Q and lost (-5,648 net)
    SB showed J A and won 11,466 (5,818 net)



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    His bet on the turn and river following my re raise on the flop is suspicious but i consider it weak. I am of course repping the boat. I had no history with player but after a quick name check im show 'played 83, win $92' in past 120 days. I dont think any thinking player can make that call
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    02-08-2015 , 04:41 PM
    He is clicking buttons (and so are you) and you somehow expect him to be a "thinking player" that'll fold anything remotely good? This is just total spew.
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    02-08-2015 , 05:11 PM
    Actually a lot of thinking players will make that call. They will think it through, and know that it is very unlikely you have an overpair, very unlikely that you have a 6, and fairly unlikely that you have a T. You are very likely to have a busted flush or straight draw, an ace or possibly a middle pair or weaker J.

    The people who fold are the ones who always think "he bet big so he must have it" regardless of whether or not it makes sense for you to have it. Bear in mind that the all-in is not that large of a bet. It is about 3100 with a pot of 8368, giving him nearly 3-1 odds on a call. You will get some people to fold here, but most of those who fold are ones that were on a draw themselves, and you have a lot of them beat anyway.
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    02-08-2015 , 05:23 PM
    just call the flop and fold the river
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    02-08-2015 , 05:24 PM
    Considering the action on the flop, what are you repping on the river? Quads? Jacks Full? Would you raise/call these hands on the flop? Unlikely. Would you raise the flop with a Ten? Seems bad. Seems like you are mostly repping flush draws here.

    BTW, your raise on the flop is really bad. On the turn villain is giving us too cheap a price to draw. This is great. If villain doesn't have us drawing dead he will likely pay us if we hit. River is a trivial fold. Not sure what you are doing trying to make crazy bluffs at this level particularly when you are repping a draw.
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    02-08-2015 , 05:24 PM
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    I dont think any thinking player can make that call
    You are probably wrong as VBAces points out, but anyway, he fish bet donks the flop...so he probably ain't no thinking player is he.

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    This is just total spew
    This.

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    i need to stop jamming the turn and river when i miss
    yes you do, so to missquote Yoda. "there is no think, there is only ****ing get on with doing it."
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    02-08-2015 , 06:39 PM
    J-10 would raise turn. And a calling station would call you down anyway. You picked the wrong opponent to bluff. Learn this lesson well, and profit.
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    02-08-2015 , 06:53 PM
    Work on your mental game.

    You clearly identify a leak in your game of probably doing this to much and go on to do it again in the wrong spot.
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    02-08-2015 , 07:03 PM
    You rep a very narrow range making this play (pretty much JT specifically should play like this, but even if you have every remotely reasonable value combo - JJ, TT, 66 - you still only have 12 combos). Villain blocks a huge percentage of that. I mean obviously he's not thinking this way because he's a fish but it's not a terrible call in itself.
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