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02-01-2014 , 10:47 AM
Hi all!

I have wondered that do you need to consider your position while cbetting? I checked my stats (currently playing 10nl micros - 30k hands) and they seem to be:

In position
CBet flop: 72.66
CBet turn: 36.47
CBet river: 63.16

Out of position:
CBet flop: 73.33
CBet turn: 71.67
CBet river: 71.43

Any opinions on my stats? What about villains, I'd assume they play a role when considering cbet move (loose/passive more cbetting, maniacs only when having a decent hand).
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02-01-2014 , 10:55 AM
Dont do that^ you will get bad advices with that way.These stats means nothing imo.Post spots that you unsure if you should bet or not and talk you pll but just posting stats etc i really hate it!
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02-01-2014 , 06:36 PM
Posting stats is fine.

You're cbetting too much in general unless you're playing like 15/11 in 6max. In position you need to barrel more, which can be accomplished by cbetting less. You're barrelling off too much OOP (30% of the time is a lot).
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02-01-2014 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
Posting stats is fine.

You're cbetting too much in general unless you're playing like 15/11 in 6max. In position you need to barrel more, which can be accomplished by cbetting less. You're barrelling off too much OOP (30% of the time is a lot).
Is ~70% too much?
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02-01-2014 , 07:18 PM
If you raised pre, under what circumstances wouldn't you cbet?
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02-01-2014 , 08:04 PM
If you checked your stats, then I assume you have poker tracking software? Not sure what you have. I use HM2, but I would assume PT is similar..

If you want to know generally how often cbetting is profitable, look at your cbet success stats. Again, you can do this in HM2, but I don't know about PT. But I would think there's something similar there. Consider how much you're cbetting on each flop type, and if the success rate is profitable for that bet size. For example, if your cbet success rate for ace-high rainbow flops is 50%, and you cbet 66% of the pot, then it's a profitable play (as you only need them to fold 40% of the time to break even).

Now obviously, after cbetting the flop and getting called, you might make mistakes on the turn and/or river that might be costing you more money (thus making the flop cbet in essence unprofitable). But it's a start.
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02-01-2014 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nismo9
Is ~70% too much?
Yeah, modern orthodoxy is 50-60% (assuming a roughly 24/20 game). The midstakes guys seem to be cbetting about 40% of the time. The issue is obviously if you cbet too much you get owned every time you check.
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02-01-2014 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
Posting stats is fine.

You're cbetting too much in general unless you're playing like 15/11 in 6max. In position you need to barrel more, which can be accomplished by cbetting less. You're barrelling off too much OOP (30% of the time is a lot).
Thanks. I'm playing fr actually.
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02-01-2014 , 11:14 PM
Listen, midstakes advice is going to be different than microstakes advice. Don't focus on the percentages that midstakes guys are cbetting. Do what's profitable at your stakes. I showed you how to tell what situations can be profitable for cbetting... In my experience, cbetting most flops will show a profit, if you bet 2/3 pot. From my data, the boards to stay away from were low 2-tone or rainbow flops (but mostly 2-tone). I think all other flops had a success rate over 40%.

You may have different results depending on your opponents and your style of play.. The point is, analyze your own results and see what works.

EDIT: Just saw whose advice I was refuting haha.. He has a lot more experience than me, and I respect what he has to say. But I still stand by what I said

Last edited by PokerPhilosopher; 02-01-2014 at 11:20 PM.
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