I have a "micro" bankroll so i try to stay in the micro sng's hu, single table, and multi table...

I am about +20% Roi in 80 medium stake of 100 micro's i am -25% roi...ive logged right at sng's

I play the same way in both but i just lose more in micro's...i have a fairly tight range all around which i have loosened up a bit which is helping..but nothing helps at micro's...

i play fairly standard...i cant get pokertracker to work...it will work for a few hands then stop working so i really want to get that up and running bc i have serious serious leaks somewhere if i cant even beat the micro sng game...

basically i cant keep at the medium bc i dont want to start running bad there and just lose a lot i need to be in micro's but i need to be + while im doing it...

any advice?

yes it is a small sample but...i feel like i play above the results that im getting...i may stay away for a little while from playing bc i sometimes feel like im am somehow MAKING that 2 outer hit the board with some type of mind control...

AGAINST me not FOR me tho haha

too small of a sample to mean anything. dont take it too seriosuly. your leveling yourself. don't over-analyze the results. this isnt a rubic cube.

you can "play fairly tight" as much as you want but there will be few real leaps in your play(and bankroll) if you do not learn basic components of the game.

i am in a similar situation, but I am moving up based on cardrunners full ring hand-play chart. cardrunners literally maps out what to do in pre-flop situations. oh, on the button with JJ facing a raise? re-raise it or you limped with A-Q utg and you're facing a raise? WELL YOU ALREADY SHOULD HAVE FOLDED!

it seems tight but I personally will swear by their charts. it works. take 30 minutes, study them, hang them up above your monitor...it works.

also, and i have been told this many times but never believed it until it happens 20 times a day...if you hold KK or QQ...or any pocket pair...you re-raise, and you are raised/re-raised by a limper or the initial raiser, just fold(depending on the re-raise of course. min-re-raise...i personally will call and set-mine unless i smell a rat.)

i will honestly say that my evolution into winning DEPENDS on folding these top-tier pocket pairs; prior to truly experiencing these situations 5-10 times a day(i play a few hours 2-3 days a week) i did not believe it.

learn to fold good hands. believe me, they will come about again. statistically, they have to.

here is the other thing to consider; there are coolers in poker. or straight dumb ass plays that payoff the dumbass. if not, then why play poker?


are you bored playing? playing 4 tables in a very very tight manner? if that is already the case, play ten in an even tighter manner.

Not sure where to begin but all that "advice" is terrible. You don't learn to play poker by generic examples you read on a chart. If you're bored playing at 4 tables (or even 2...or 1) you're not paying enough attention to the other players and the other players is where the money comes from. It's fine to have a system but if you never change your play then it will be exploited. Everyone plays differently.

Playing at the micro stakes sngs can indeed be frustrating: (How can he make that call? I thought I represented an ace perfectly...etc). Players are typically rather loose at the lowest levels obviously so adjust to the dynamics at those stakes. You won't find people checkraising the turn with less than top pair top kicker in the micros. Bluffs aren't seen all the time like in high stakes, no one's gonna squeeze with J3o. Play like your chips are important to you. Think less about the end game and more about the plan for each hand you're in. The best way to get better at poker, like anything else, is practice. Play more and if you're diligent you should see results. I don't believe that you need raw talent to succeed at poker, just patience; never be careless but also play emotionless.

Much better to open up your game on 2-4 tables than to stay nitty and mass multi table.

Sample size ...

+1 skrapper

i will disagree on the 4th and 5th post.

I will preface this post by saying that perhaps i seemed to stringent in regards to the cardrunners handchart; certainly I do not condone robot poker. If poker is truly like that, then it might as well be video poker then. perhaps i should have stated that the charts I am referring to are strictly pre-flop charts.

A) strictly following a hand chart such as cardrunners full ring chart will provide the basics regarding full-ring cash-game poker at these limits. table dynamics should be thrown out the window at a micro stakes level; these individuals are absolutely unpredictable.

B) The cardrunners charts i use refer to pre-flop play. Play this hand in this position, fold this hand, re-raise this hand in small blind. Post-flop plays by weak micro-stakes individuals are where WE make money. Can anyone honestly say they make their money pre-flop and are poor post-flop players?

C) The opinions i provided regarding cardrunners charts are subjective and i apologize if they are misleading...so is poker; regarding table dynamics, well i have previously stated that they are unpredictable at these limits. An understanding of a hand selection for micro-limit poker before understanding the mechanics is like asking an ignorant person to rebuild a transmission before even showing him/her the car.


in regards to the 5th post...

A) asking to sit and feel out two to four tables is exhausting WHEN an individual can play ten tables, learn a system, see how major hands fall, learn to be wary of certain board textures, etc.

my close friend said to me "i can tell you one-hundred times to fold KK in this position but until you experience it yourself in (however) many times, you will never fold it."

the more times you see hands the more experience you build.


I am providing my opinions and personal strategies, as you all have too. I hope this conversation has benefited the OP in any way.

thats just terrible and if your mucking KK and QQ preflop this much you are seriously hurting your winrate

Why are you folding AQ UTG pf?

Folding KK because you are OOP? Your friend sounds like a tool.

This is solid advice to a beginner. It allows them to get used to folding hands that look good PF (but I had AQ! how can I fold!), because they're forced to. By doing that they see less marginal situations where their love for top pair loses them money.
Yes, it isn't the most optimal way of playing hands at micro levels, but then again, it's usually good play.



Wrong. I can't understand how you play in the micros and can say something like this. Even if you get called 5-10 times in a single day by AA (and you won't and didn't. Stop exaggerating), all the times you get called with KK by KJ are worth it.
At micro levels (and higher levels too imo), you can't tell the difference between someone playing QQ and KK. Don't be like those people putting people on single hands, and not ranges of hands.

FYP

umm pretty much everything earpin1 said was horrible advice. please dont follow it OP. it hurt just reading it.

I seen reg players call 3-bets with Q10s and k10s.

I watched ed millers micro stakes diagnostic and it really helped me out. I am now 3-bet valuebtting JJ+( used JJ as drawing hand) and AQ+.


also with PT I can iso those lagtards