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01-21-2010 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by andyhop
I am in the same situation as you mostly playing late night/early hours of the morning in Oz and the games are definately tighter relatively speaking than they are during US evening time.

It is still very profitable to play during these hours for me though.
Yeah I have a feeling a bit of mine is also run bad in my few sessions. I'm only ever playing small sessions during the week due to time constraints so larger variance than big weekend sessions. Like BvB I raise AJo he calls (TAGish) then flop is like 226 or something so I c/bet hoping to take it down but he calls. J hits turn and I bet again TPTK woop woop. Rivers a blank so I bet a lil over half pot and he shoves. I seem to end up starting a lot of sessions during the week with stuff like that. Then I build back up to near 0 then have another hand where I have to fold after having invested and I only get back through blind stealing .

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
I used to have the same mental leak. Read through Phil Galfond's well, he talks about how he is a passive person irl and how it was difficult to overcome that natural passivity.
Wow I thought this was just me. There are a lot of situations where I'm fairly certain I should continue a bluff but just give up because its safer/easier/lower variance.
01-21-2010 , 08:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadclosed
QFT

I've played about 2000 hands of rush poker with my BR of $120 and it could definately be profitable if you're rolled for it but the swings are huge. Even though I played well and mostly got my money in as favourite the BR took a $30 hit so I'm back to 2NL and $90.
Exactly,why Qtf...he isnt rolled for it and u arnt either.Ur down to 90 dollars so stop playing it.Obviously its profitable if you have the roll but you dont so whats your point
01-21-2010 , 08:55 PM
$130 - $60

Pathetic, played a guy who was new to poker and i couldnt beat him.

I had a HUGE edge of him, he was dumb and didnt know what was going on really but won everything and hit every card he needed.

The best one was JJ vs 109 on A8x Q board
He rivered a J for the straight, was pathetic.

Think i really need to just re-deposit so i can start playing stakes i was before, these stakes are taking there toll on my with boredom and stupidity of play.
01-21-2010 , 08:55 PM
BR: $121 -> $110

Man-o-man. I had such a feel for the tables I was on, and was getting good hands too. You'd think that would mean $$$ but no. I went AI preflop 3 times as a big favorite. QQ < AJ, QQ=AT (after flopping a set -- I think I hate the ties more than the losses), and of course this one:


Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (SB): $4.02
BB: $3.19
UTG: $0.32
MP: $2.31
CO: $1.48
BTN: $2.99

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with A A
2 folds, CO calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.10, BB raises to $0.18, CO calls $0.16, Hero raises to $4.02, BB calls $3.01 all in, CO calls $1.30 all in

Flop: ($7.86) 3 7 J (3 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($7.86) Q (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($7.86) K (3 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $7.86
Hero shows Ad Ac
BB shows Qs Qd
CO shows Js As
BB wins $4.24
(Rake: $0.35)


I also called a big overbet AI on the river when there were 3 Q's on the board and I had full house. Of course the guy has quads. It was early on and I didn't have a read on him, but then he did that huge overbet on the river thing 3 more times with the nuts/near nuts and got paid off every time. Wish I would've known that at the time.

5NL keeps getting farther and farther away...
01-21-2010 , 09:20 PM
25nl is sexing me really hard. One day I will beat the **** out of it.


10nl 6max and FR



25nl weeee
01-21-2010 , 09:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rocaerix
Wow I thought this was just me. There are a lot of situations where I'm fairly certain I should continue a bluff but just give up because its safer/easier/lower variance.
To sum up his advice on how to get over this... he said to take the time to figure out the best play.. that way even if you aren't aggressive by nature, you will deduct that an aggressive action is the best plan of attack at this point of the hand.

imo the best advice from his well, is very simple (as the best advice usually is).. and basically it says that every time the action is on you, it is your chance to make the perfect play.
01-21-2010 , 09:56 PM
mamahalili... that's not a sexing.. that's straight up rape.
01-22-2010 , 12:13 AM
Wow, that AhQh hand was pretty interesting. I would of called that off so quick, with two overs and NFD and a gutshot straight draw. What were the results there anwyays, did villain have an overpair like TT/99 or a small set?
01-22-2010 , 01:32 AM
slow and steady climb continues ... no white hot streak, but no doomswitch either, so I can't complain.

$473.50 --> $482
01-22-2010 , 02:10 AM
Lost $15.50 within my first 200 hands. I was semi bluffing with 15 outs in the deck, I barreled flop & turn, then just bluffed the river with a psb, an he looked me up. That cost me around 150BB. Then I flopped a baby flush and my villain did as well and stacked me there. After the rough outcomes I finished my session being up .25c, which was fine with me.
01-22-2010 , 02:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SchererBoy
Wow, that AhQh hand was pretty interesting. I would of called that off so quick, with two overs and NFD and a gutshot straight draw. What were the results there anwyays, did villain have an overpair like TT/99 or a small set?
He flipped KK. I didn't hit anything. My EV line pretty much didn't move on my graphy. My green line sure did though.
01-22-2010 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by z3r0d
Success.

Level: 10NL

BR: 255-340
veeeeery nice!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by T-Bird
A couple of NL10 hands I'm not sure of. Any comments/advice on how you'd play them welcome.

Villain 40/0/0 over 5 hands so pretty much unknown.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $14.45
SB: $11.35
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $4.05
CO: $21.35

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with Q A
UTG calls $0.10, CO raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, CO calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.15) 4 3 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.95, CO raises to $10, Hero calls $4.05 all in
Hm. His stats are meaningless if you only have 5 hands on him. A 5xBB open raise is pretty huge with only 1 limper in the pot, and at pokerstars I've found that decent villains seem to do this with something like {JJ+, AQ+}, and their continuing range after you 3-bet is usually something like {QQ+}. But even assuming he has an 11% 5xBB raising range {77+,A9s+,KTs+,QTs+,ATo+,KQo} you're flipping with him with your AQ. That leaves you playing a huuuge pot for 20% of your stack, out of position with a marginal hand, which you never want to be doing. Once you make a bet for 1/5 of your stack you're pretty much committing yourself to shipping it on any flop, and it turns out you're actually a decent favorite on that flop against almost anything he could be holding. But, you really don't want to be playing big pots out of position at 10NL, except with monster hands such as {QQ+, AK}. One of the main things you're always trying to do in poker is get paid off by the hands you beat and not pay off the hands that beat you, and this is very difficult to accomplish when you are first to act since worse hands will most often fold and better hands will crush you.

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Originally Posted by T-Bird
Villain in this hand seems like a TAG reg. Over 101 hands he is 21/15/9.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $9.90
BB: $10.00
UTG: $11.70
Hero (MP): $16.50
CO: $6.60
BTN: $1.05

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with K A
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, SB calls $0.35, BB raises to $1.40, Hero raises to $5.60, 1 fold, BB raises to $10 all in, Hero calls $4.40

I'm really still not sure how to play AK at these stakes. Do I just take advantage of shortstackers and aggrodonks preflop with it and fold to any 3bet/4bet from anyone else?
If you haven't already, you probably want to configure your HUD to display 3-bet stats. Against a solid reg I fold to his 3-bet. At best you're flipping with him, but there's a good chance you're crushed already. AK is strong against shortstackers, and strong against aggrodonks when you're in position.

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Originally Posted by T-Bird
Also how do I react to the ridiculous amount of minbets preflop and on the flop. Most times I've called and either hit a hand and they've c/fd or called, hit nothing and folded to a cbet or I've called them down with a TP type hand and they've had a better kicker.
If somebody minbets, raise if you have a big hand or flat call if you're playing a drawing hand (small pocket pairs, etc). Most of the time the pots will stay small-- that's normal. Unless you have reads that the villain bets with weak hands, IMO stay away from calling down with less than top pair-top kicker.
01-22-2010 , 03:59 AM
So, now im at $353.

Should I play 25nl?
01-22-2010 , 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by burialchamber
A 5xBB open raise is pretty huge with only 1 limper in the pot
pretty standard, no?

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Originally Posted by z3r0d
So, now im at $353.

Should I play 25nl?
you are not sufficiently rolled, but i wouldn;t be averse to finding the odd juicy table every now and again to add to any 10 nl tables you are playing. just not my juicy tables, kthx
01-22-2010 , 07:25 AM
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $10.55
CO: $10.00
Hero (BTN): $10.80
SB: $10.20
BB: $12.80

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 6 6
1 fold, CO raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) J 6 6 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.75) K (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.10, CO raises to $0.50, Hero calls $0.40

River: ($1.75) J (2 players)
CO bets $0.80, Hero raises to $2, CO folds

Final Pot: $3.35
Hero wins $3.20
(Rake: $0.15)

Brag: Quads
Beat: KQ and would have called had I shoved (spoke about it after)

EDIT: Damnit I forgot Zeebos theorem, shove was obvious move!

Last edited by rocaerix; 01-22-2010 at 07:37 AM.
01-22-2010 , 07:43 AM
BR: $550-$507 weeeeeeeeeeeee
01-22-2010 , 10:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bumblebee99
pretty standard, no?
yeah, mostly-- 4.5x would be pot. but i don't think the average villain at 10NL knows that they should be varying their raise sizes based on number of limpers, stack sizes, etc. i don't see a lot of 5x raises at pokerstars 10NL that end up being something other than {JJ+, AQ+, KQ}.
01-22-2010 , 10:09 AM
Mini-update:

Having my first +$50 month in a long time. (fire up doomswitch?)

FTP is almost $480 so Im going to concentrate on my stars account and see if I can get that over $300 ($280 currently).

You guys are all doing a great job and keep up the good work.
01-22-2010 , 10:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by checkmate36
Mini-update:

Having my first +$50 month in a long time. (fire up boomswitch?)

FTP is almost $480 so Im going to concentrate on my stars account and see if I can get that over $300 ($280 currently).

You guys are all doing a great job and keep up the good work.
fyp positive thinking ftw
01-22-2010 , 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gyruss
Couple more STTs tonight and one $8 Tier One on FT -

Bankroll $358 ----> $424 (35% increase since joining this thread at $315)

Sorry this is not through cash play. I would donk off this whole amount in one night.

Sorry for not reporting in a while. BRAG to follow. As recommended to me, I have played and have consistently cashed in the Full Tilt $11 9 person SnG with some wins. I have done a few $33 and $60 and have fared well. Offered a player from China a chop on the top 2 in a $60 9 person and he told me that he couldn't since he was "on an excel report" which was fine with me since I took it down for $247.

My big score for the week was playing in a few $8 Tier 1s and then parlaying those into $24 Tier 2 SnGs to get $75 chips. Have used one $75 for a 45 person and came in third for $476. Blew a lot of that in one night playing MTTs (50/50, 16K KO, etc.) with no cashes.

Bankroll has grown:

$358 -----> $862.

140% growth since starting to post in this forum. Considering taking $500 out of account to set aside for WSOP trip.
01-22-2010 , 10:23 AM
Hows my line? vs what is a solid taggy player.

SARCASTIC, was being stupid on purpose

Decided because of that I'd mess with his head. Call PF was to make a move .

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $10.00
BTN: $10.00
SB: $7.40
Hero (BB): $10.25
UTG: $12.10
MP: $14.05

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with T K
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45) K 9 K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN calls $0.20

Turn: ($1.25) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.10, BTN raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $1.10, BTN calls $0.50

River: ($3.45) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.80, Hero raises to $5.60, BTN raises to $8.30 all in, Hero calls $2.70

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $20.05
BTN shows Ts 6h (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows Td Kd (three of a kind, Kings)
Hero wins $19.10
(Rake: $0.95)


Shove Q4s for 100BB hand after and then two more hands after that. Then losing huge amount in pot with nut low. ULTRA TILTED!

Last edited by rocaerix; 01-22-2010 at 10:45 AM.
01-22-2010 , 10:24 AM
nice gyruss!!!
01-22-2010 , 10:28 AM
played like 5 hands yesterday before i got interrupted and had to go and lost like $3 haha

BR $80 -> $77
01-22-2010 , 10:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rocaerix
Hows my line? vs what is a solid taggy player.

Decided because of that I'd mess with his head. Call PF was to make a move .

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $10.00
BTN: $10.00
SB: $7.40
Hero (BB): $10.25
UTG: $12.10
MP: $14.05

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with T K
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45) K 9 K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN calls $0.20

Turn: ($1.25) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.10, BTN raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $1.10, BTN calls $0.50

River: ($3.45) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.80, Hero raises to $5.60, BTN raises to $8.30 all in, Hero calls $2.70

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $20.05
BTN shows Ts 6h (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows Td Kd (three of a kind, Kings)
Hero wins $19.10
(Rake: $0.95)


Shove Q4s for 100BB hand after and then two more hands after that. Then losing huge amount in pot with nut low. ULTRA TILTED!
Re: postflop play:
On the flop I c/r to about .60 as I don't like to minraise ever. We have a strong hand and we want to bet it for value/start building a big pot.

I def don't like the turn min bet and I def don't like checking to villain on the river. It worked out for you this time but I like a straight forward ABC nothing fancy approach to beating the lower limit players. Building big pots with strong hands (never slow playing) and keeping the pot small with weaker hands.
01-22-2010 , 10:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by checkmate36
Re: postflop play:
On the flop I c/r to about .60 as I don't like to minraise ever. We have a strong hand and we want to bet it for value/start building a big pot.

I def don't like the turn min bet and I def don't like checking to villain on the river. It worked out for you this time but I like a straight forward ABC nothing fancy approach to beating the lower limit players. Building big pots with strong hands (never slow playing) and keeping the pot small with weaker hands.
Was being sarcastic . This is a very much "don't try this at home" moment. I purposely tried to make my line look as stupid and bluffy as possible. If I slow played him into a fullhouse then so be it. Just thought he was aggro and IP and would try hard to push me off my hand if I looked bluffy and stupid.

      
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