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05-23-2010 , 08:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by familydude
i need to clarify im playing .02/ .05 nl not .2/.5 bigg differnce in money lol.
yeah even playing .5nl with 18$ is risky, couple bad suckouts and you're busto. Might wanna try short stacking a couple tables of 2nl to cut down on the risk.
05-23-2010 , 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SchererBoy
Masq, is it normal to Limp w/ AAxx (suited ace) from the SB like that? Would you normally raise that from the btn or c/o having position?
I'd say it depends generally on how the table's playing and on my position. It's probably not standard, but I feel there's value to it as there's not many cards that improve my hand so more often than not i'm going to miss flop and by limping in with AA my hand's hugely under-repped should I hit the flop. If i'm in late positions/button then i'll raise quite often. If i'm OOP and have AAds then I won't really 3bet/4bet unless I feel I can play for stacks or get a lot in pre-flop.

I've lost a fair amount with AAxx hands so I opt to not commit much pre-flop and then play it post-flop (pretty much how I play PLO in general really.) I'm still working on how to play AA hands at PLO10, but I went through most of PLO2 & 5 not going crazy with AA hands pre-flop.
05-23-2010 , 11:00 PM
BR: Stars $170 (haven't played in weeks) Tilt $104.97

Okay, the Full tilt experiment started off horribly. Dropped countless buyins playing/trying out Rush. I almost always had my money in good but to no avail. So when I hit down to ~$78 I decided to go back to my standard game PLO5. Once again started slow but had a couple of good sessions over the last couple of days plus 4 bucks in RB so I'm back to where I was.

Plan on putting in good volume on tilt tomorrow to get some more rakeback as it's the last day I can for the week.
05-23-2010 , 11:02 PM
just had a gr8 start to a probably 3-4k hand session and was up 4 bi's.. first missclick of my life made me go down 3bi's and such is life... br now= $192.. i have been stuck here for like 10days now grrrrr
05-23-2010 , 11:27 PM
BR-206

All of my profit came from this hand where I made a drunken typo of 9 dollars instead of .90.

Cake Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Cake-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($3.83)
BB ($3.05)
Hero (UTG) ($10)
MP ($2.85)
Button ($7.19)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10, 10
Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.95) 4, 4, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, Button calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.15) 3 (2 players)
Hero raises to $9 (All-In), Button calls $6.19 (All-In)

River: ($14.53) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $14.53 | Rake: $0.96

Results:
Button had 6, 5 (two pair, sixes and fours).
Hero had 10, 10 (two pair, tens and fours).
Outcome: Hero won $13.57
05-23-2010 , 11:29 PM
lol BlaneH, thats fantastic. If i was that guy and someone bets 9$ into a 2.15$ pot I cant fold fast enough, even with an open ended, thats just silly.
05-23-2010 , 11:33 PM
Yea, I was soul crushed cause I wanted a crappy flush draw or a 6 to come along and thought I ruined my line
05-23-2010 , 11:38 PM
I did the same thing with AKs the other day on a dry board just trying to cbet lol, and a guy called it with 34o, with no draws.
05-24-2010 , 01:04 AM
Why were you betting 90c into $2.15 if you thought/figured/knew he was drawing? If you were gonna bet 2/5 pot to bring a draw along with you, you're better off checking. If I know/think someone is drawing I'm pretty much betting 80%+ psb.

I had a very "meh" day today. Played close to 1.3k hands and won just under 1 BI. This was btwn 2 sessions, and each one I started off dumping a BI and had to climb back into it. Also picked up about 37vpps and need about 275ish to make Silver, so I'll need abt 34 a day to close it out. And the Lakers lost, which sucked. Oh, and I also got 11T$
05-24-2010 , 01:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SchererBoy
Why were you betting 90c into $2.15 if you thought/figured/knew he was drawing? If you were gonna bet 2/5 pot to bring a draw along with you, you're better off checking. If I know/think someone is drawing I'm pretty much betting 80%+ psb.
1. *points to drunk part of post*
2. My logic probably was a smaller bet makes more 6x smaller pocket pairs continue on.

I was also watching the lakers game and talking to my roommate...I'm gonna say I was playing my C+ game
05-24-2010 , 02:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlaneH
1. *points to drunk part of post*
2. My logic probably was a smaller bet makes more 6x smaller pocket pairs continue on.

I was also watching the lakers game and talking to my roommate...I'm gonna say I was playing my C+ game
In that case, you played better than the Lakers. oh and obv won too
05-24-2010 , 02:53 AM
Looking at the pot size I may have been attempting to type 1.90...cleared the decimal missed the one and hit the nine?
05-24-2010 , 03:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SomethingFishy
i know its plo2 but fold pre X2. you can print money by just playing tight. esp that second hand what do you hope to hit with that rainbow rundown? and a middle rundown no less.
I cant see how you can not, not call the second hand? Even OOP, its worth seeing a flop i thought?

I was playing tight during those games, running something like 20/14.

I find those hands easy to play, you either hit or you dont. He hit trips, i guess tried slow playing them. My drawing hand hit, i got the money?
05-24-2010 , 08:43 AM
Just played another session, started off ok then I dropped a few buy-ins before I eventually made it back and a bit more. I'll just post a few hands. I was a bit tilted at one point and folded KQTT with a few hearts pre-flop to a raise and flop came T35 with 2 hearts and i'd have made a bit off it.

I'm a bit disappointed with the way I played this hand, my session would have been better without it. My call of the raise on flop is pretty bad and my turn play is even worse. It's kind of obvious he has T7. Only hand I can hope to see is 77xx. Disappointing....

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $12.55
MP: $10.00
CO: $9.55
BTN: $11.20
SB: $14.65

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with T Q Q 3
2 folds, CO raises to $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.40) T 7 T (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, CO raises to $2, BTN folds, SB folds, Hero calls $1.30

Turn: ($5.40) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3, Hero raises to $7.65 all in, CO calls $4.20 all in

River: ($19.80) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $19.80
Hero shows T Q Q 3 (a full house, Tens full of Threes)
CO shows T J A 7 (a full house, Tens full of Sevens)
CO wins $18.85
(Rake: $0.95)

Villain really didn't like the way I played this hand. I figure I know pretty much what he's got, in my mind I had 6 outs and he didn't even re-raise that much. Here are a few of his comments on it, I don't think he understands the concept of drawing and odds.

"ofcousrse i check raise a guy with the nuts"
"he has 3 outs he calls, not raise, just call"
"if u think u r ahead raise, if u think u r behind fold"

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $10.70
CO: $8.40
Hero (BTN): $13.90
SB: $15.40
BB: $13.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 3 A 6 Q
UTG calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold, BB checks

Flop: ($0.45) Q 4 Q (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.30, BB folds, UTG folds, CO raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.25) 6 (2 players)
CO bets $1.60, Hero raises to $4.20, CO raises to $7.40 all in, Hero calls $3.20

River: ($17.05) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $17.05
CO shows 4 Q 5 A (a full house, Queens full of Fives)
Hero shows 3 A 6 Q (a full house, Queens full of Sixes)
Hero wins $16.25
(Rake: $0.80)
05-24-2010 , 09:21 AM
Talking about misclicked bets found this hand from a session 3 days ago

The hand was played against a huge fish like 65/2 or so the large turn raise was to get stacks in on the river, he almost always bet ip and almost never folded to any agression.

On the river i was gonna type $10 simply to shove but what i managed to do was click on the betsizing spot and it deselected the minbet amount and so i added the $10 to the end of the $0.1 minbet so my river bet was $0.110 and thus the pro minbet on the river.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: $12.70
CO: $10.00
BTN: $5.45
SB: $12.80
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $14.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 5 3
3 folds, BTN calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.25) A 4 T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.45) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.70, BTN calls $1.30

River: ($3.85) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.10, BTN calls $0.10

Final Pot: $4.05
BTN shows 2 A (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
Hero shows 5 3 (a straight, Ace to Five)
Hero wins $3.90
(Rake: $0.15)
05-24-2010 , 09:31 AM
Haven't posted in a few days. Had a major downswing. My first downswing was my first week or two playing poker - not only did I have no clue what I was doing (well, even more so than now), I was playing well above my BR.

Last week i got my BR back above my starting point, but then hit one big massive downswing. Went from around $150 to close to $100 - almost all of it playing micro fixed limit. Got rivered repeatedly. If I had premium hands, the table would fold to me pre-flop. If I had decent hands I'd play and bet and would bet drawn on the river. I lost with AA 8 times in a row, which hasta be some sort of record.

Overall, though I knew I was playing OK. (Well, I'm a beginner so I'm probably not necessarily playing well...). But going over my hands I couldn't really see any major problems. So I just put it down to variance. I'm strangely proud of myself for not tilting and taking it all pretty much in stride. I can completely see the me of 30 years ago just saying '**** it' and putting the rest of my BR all-in at some stupid high-stakes table....

The downswing seemed to hit a bottom at around $105 or so. I took stock and did two things. First, I realized that I was super tired of fish at fixed-limit calling down any and all streets with any and all randon two cards. Getting rivered to death was killing me. So I decided to try my hand at $0.01/.02 no-limit. I have very limited experience at NL, so I watched a number of deuces cracked videos just to get the basics down.

I also was ready to impose a one-week ban on poker if my BR fell below $100. Punishment for losing a third of my original BR <g>.

Well, I had a bit of a slow start - lost a buy-in almost immedietly when I lost with AA yet again when villian hit a set (of 5s...) on the river. Checking my HH later, I realized later that at one point my BR was actually below $99.

But I kept at it as my reads on the tables got a bit better, and thanks to some steady profitable sessions and a small deposit bonus, my BR is back up to $130!

And I think I might be a full NL convert. It's a lot nicer being able to have a bit of finesse with bet-sizing....

BR: $155 -> $130

Last edited by Blue Eyed Samurai; 05-24-2010 at 09:50 AM.
05-24-2010 , 10:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Masq
Just played another session, started off ok then I dropped a few buy-ins before I eventually made it back and a bit more. I'll just post a few hands. I was a bit tilted at one point and folded KQTT with a few hearts pre-flop to a raise and flop came T35 with 2 hearts and i'd have made a bit off it.

I'm a bit disappointed with the way I played this hand, my session would have been better without it. My call of the raise on flop is pretty bad and my turn play is even worse. It's kind of obvious he has T7. Only hand I can hope to see is 77xx. Disappointing....

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $12.55
MP: $10.00
CO: $9.55
BTN: $11.20
SB: $14.65

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with T Q Q 3
2 folds, CO raises to $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.40) T 7 T (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, CO raises to $2, BTN folds, SB folds, Hero calls $1.30

Turn: ($5.40) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3, Hero raises to $7.65 all in, CO calls $4.20 all in

River: ($19.80) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $19.80
Hero shows T Q Q 3 (a full house, Tens full of Threes)
CO shows T J A 7 (a full house, Tens full of Sevens)
CO wins $18.85
(Rake: $0.95)

Villain really didn't like the way I played this hand. I figure I know pretty much what he's got, in my mind I had 6 outs and he didn't even re-raise that much. Here are a few of his comments on it, I don't think he understands the concept of drawing and odds.

"ofcousrse i check raise a guy with the nuts"
"he has 3 outs he calls, not raise, just call"
"if u think u r ahead raise, if u think u r behind fold"

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $10.70
CO: $8.40
Hero (BTN): $13.90
SB: $15.40
BB: $13.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 3 A 6 Q
UTG calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold, BB checks

Flop: ($0.45) Q 4 Q (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.30, BB folds, UTG folds, CO raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.25) 6 (2 players)
CO bets $1.60, Hero raises to $4.20, CO raises to $7.40 all in, Hero calls $3.20

River: ($17.05) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $17.05
CO shows 4 Q 5 A (a full house, Queens full of Fives)
Hero shows 3 A 6 Q (a full house, Queens full of Sixes)
Hero wins $16.25
(Rake: $0.80)
Was the second hand aganist the same as the first? Be sweet if so!

BR up to $132 playing PLO. Started the session badly, went all in with not the best of hands, but not worst, just after seeing some of the hands these people had played in the short time were ******ed....

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($2.83)
Hero (UTG) ($1.98)
MP ($3.01)
Button ($1.04)
SB ($2)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, Q, 8, A
Hero bets $0.07, MP calls $0.07, Button raises to $0.31, 1 fold, BB calls $0.29, Hero raises to $1.32, 1 fold, Button calls $0.73 (All-In), BB raises to $2.33, Hero calls $0.66 (All-In)

Flop: ($5.08) Q, 9, 7 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($5.08) 10 (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($5.08) K (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $5.08 | Rake: $0.33

Results:
Button had 8, 6, J, 3 (flush, King high).
BB had A, J, 9, 9 (straight, Ace high).
Hero had K, Q, 8, A (two pair, Kings and Queens).
Outcome: Button won $2.99, BB won $1.76


Made up with:

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($2.11)
SB ($1.54)
Hero (BB) ($1.98)
UTG ($3.29)
MP ($1.08)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10, 10, A, K
2 folds, Button calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.06) 10, 7, 5 (3 players)
SB bets $0.06, Hero calls $0.06, Button calls $0.06

Turn: ($0.24) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.08, Button raises to $0.22, SB calls $0.22, Hero raises to $1.12, Button raises to $2.03 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $0.78 (All-In)

River: ($4.26) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.26 | Rake: $0.28

Results:
Button had 10, 7, 5, 8 (full house, fives over tens).
Hero had 10, 10, A, K (full house, tens over fives).
Outcome: Hero won $3.98

Should not of checked the BB there, but im in work not paying attention, luckly got off with it
05-24-2010 , 08:17 PM
Quick update: A decent run this evening; only an hour or so played but made a few bucks. Bigger news was, I didn't realize that I had to *buy* my stellar rewardson PS. 1 FPP later, and I'm only a few bucks behind my original BR! Guess I'd be happier if my BR was growing because I was an overall winner, but for now I'll take whatever money PS wants to give me <g>

BR: $130 -> $142
05-24-2010 , 08:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Logieuk
Was the second hand aganist the same as the first? Be sweet if so!
It wasn't sadly, I hate those spots in PLO such as the first hand where you flop a big hand or flop nuts like in second hand and then have to consider mucking it on later streets.
05-25-2010 , 03:32 AM
BR-209

Had a nasty set over set for a buy-in. Started up a new 10nl table, took out 3 opponents stack HU. Love starting new tables at Cake. You usually get >40 hands with droolers.
05-25-2010 , 04:49 AM
Took a deep breath and took a shot at 5NL just now with good results. After playing 2 tables for an hour, I was breaking even at one and up to $11.00 on the other. I think I missed a lot of value in some spots, but never lost a lot to a bad decision. Once this guy left and the tables had nothing but nits on them, I decided it was time for a quick break.

Full Tilt - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $5.33
SB: $1.67
BB: $3.50
Hero (UTG): $5.51
CO: $5.07

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A A

Hero raises to $0.15, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32, 2 players) 9 4 A
BB checks, Hero bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.82, 2 players) 6
BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB calls $0.70

River: ($2.22, 2 players) Q
BB bets $2.40 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.40

BB shows K 4 (One Pair, Fours)
Hero shows A A (Three of a Kind, Aces)
Hero wins $6.56

BR: $112, might deposit $100-150 to get a first deposit bonus going before June 1.

Last edited by Illiterate; 05-25-2010 at 04:56 AM. Reason: added bottom line
05-25-2010 , 05:32 AM
BR-179

LOL. I PLAY THIS HAND BAD. His overbet is terrible and looked like a whiffed AK. I get my proper justice for thinking I can win at cake poker. Effing two outer.

Cake Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Cake-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($10.47)
Hero (CO) ($10.58)
Button ($3.88)
SB ($6.13)
BB ($10.10)
UTG ($19.61)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J
UTG bets $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30, Button raises to $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.90, UTG calls $0.70, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: ($4.05) 2, 6, 10 (4 players)
BB raises to $9.10 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $9.10, Button calls $2.88 (All-In)

Turn: ($25.13) 8 (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($25.13) 7 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $25.13 | Rake: $1.67

Results:
Button had 10, Q (one pair, tens).
BB had 8, 8 (three of a kind, eights).
Hero had J, J (one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: BB won $23.46

Also ran into a shortstack who open shipped super wide, AJ > my A10, end of session AK> my AQ. This sucks. I'm up 80 cents on the month tho! Should be used to this by now.

Last edited by BlaneH; 05-25-2010 at 05:45 AM.
05-25-2010 , 05:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Illiterate
Took a deep breath and took a shot at 5NL just now with good results. After playing 2 tables for an hour, I was breaking even at one and up to $11.00 on the other. I think I missed a lot of value in some spots, but never lost a lot to a bad decision. Once this guy left and the tables had nothing but nits on them, I decided it was time for a quick break.

Full Tilt - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $5.33
SB: $1.67
BB: $3.50
Hero (UTG): $5.51
CO: $5.07

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A A

Hero raises to $0.15, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32, 2 players) 9 4 A
BB checks, Hero bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.82, 2 players) 6
BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB calls $0.70

River: ($2.22, 2 players) Q
BB bets $2.40 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.40

BB shows K 4 (One Pair, Fours)
Hero shows A A (Three of a Kind, Aces)
Hero wins $6.56

BR: $112, might deposit $100-150 to get a first deposit bonus going before June 1.
I ha'vnt noticed much difference in play at 5NL compared to 2NL. You prob have to pick your tables a bit better as there can be a few more regs around, but theres still plenty of bad fish.

Biggest thing i had to get over was the pot size. Raise in 2nl is 0.06/7 5NL its 0.15/17.

Few callers and that cbet is now 0.47 instead of 0.12
05-25-2010 , 06:30 AM
I'm handling the pot size fine, but the fact that every table is full of nits right now is making table selecting hard. Maybe I shouldn't play at such an ungodly hour on a Monday night :P
05-25-2010 , 06:42 AM
I dont bother playing these times for the same reason, yea its exploitable, but its ***** borring poker! PLO is ok at these times though

      
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