Sigh... Can't you get donks to fold flush draws?

My thoughts on hand - Pre is standard.

Villian likes to donk every hand, + when he donks less than 1/2 pot and looking at the board texture - its usually some sort of draw - but also some 2x/3x type hands - I think villian would have C/C or bet more with 6x.

Villian donks like $1 into turn, all draws missed except for 45. So I decided to jam =\

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1458124
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SB: $9.17
Hero (BB): $26.17
UTG: $25.93
MP: $25.70
CO: $26.34
BTN: $10.81

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with Q T
4 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.00) 6 2 3 (2 players)
SB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, SB calls $1.75

Turn: ($7.00) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $22.67 all in, SB calls $4.67 all in

River: ($18.34) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $18.34
SB shows 4 K (a pair of Threes)
Hero shows Q T (a pair of Threes - lower kicker)
SB wins $17.44
(Rake: $0.90)

SERIOUSLY? Jesus ****in christ, how bad can someone possibly play?

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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CO: $5.00
BTN: $8.30
SB: $2.34
Hero (BB): $6.86
UTG: $5.19
MP: $5.61

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with K K
1 fold, MP raises to $0.15, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, Hero raises to $0.55, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.40, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.40) 8 5 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.31 all in, BTN calls $6.31

Turn: ($14.02) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($14.02) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $14.02
BTN shows A 7 (a straight, Four to Eight)
Hero shows K K (a pair of Kings)
BTN wins $13.33
(Rake: $0.69)

This guy has a vpip of 74, I hope he doesn't leave my table. Man **** my luck!

How is $5 buy in x 100 buy ins = $1250?

a) This is not a NL only thread.
b) What makes a NLHE hand that much more interesting than a non-NLHE hand? Just because you only like NLHE does not mean everybody else in this thread only likes NLHE. I don't think anyone else has any issues with Masq posting his hands here besides you. I personally find LHE far more interesting than NLHE. Some here find PLO far more interesting than NLHE. You obviously find NLHE the most interesting. Poker involves more than just NLHE.

omfg, you totally spammed this thread. Look how many consecutive posts you did, you take the piss. You could have just multi-quoted.

The thread is "Build a Bankroll" i'm doing that. So a) I'm posting in the correct thread. b) Seeing as you don't play PLO, chances are you don't have the ability to understand what's going on and what i'm doing in hands. It seems that you play NL2, I hate to be one of those guys who looks down on people who play lower but don't try come over all high and mighty.

Lastly, I admit that sometimes I post too many hands and I have been consciously cutting some out. But i) This thread's not as active as it used to be and ii) Seeing as none of the respected people in this thread which regularly post have personally complained to me about the length of my posts I don't give a crap what you think. So to save yourself the discomfort of reading my posts in this thread I suggest you put me on ignore and just stick to contributing to it rather than trying to have a go.

These are both very incorrect.

None of this. Also masq if fine with what he is posting. If you don't want to read it... don't... some people like to read the hands, some don't. If you want to skip over everything he writes, just put him on ignore. No more derailing of this type though.

Chad joined in January 2010, but I bet all 61 of his posts are in this thread

lol stop posting strat for real

Hows everyones goal going for the month

Ontrack to make my first profit for a long time

Good. Moved up to NL25 as planned so I have hit my monthly target. After some teething problems starting to grind out a profit there and all going well so should hit NL50 some time mid next month. Been scared off PLO (I moved away from LHE because I hated the swongs, not to have more) so going to throw some MTTs into the mix instead once I hit Octobers target.

On an aside, been reading Pro NL Vol I by Miller et al. and could not recommend it more highly. It won't give you all kinds of fancy lines, instead it is effectively 300 pages on how to plan your hand properly. Just the section on commitment alone (ensuring that you decide whether or not you are committed to your hand BEFORE you start building a pot) has already both saved and won me a fair amount.

i'm way short on volume but started my teacher training postgrad this week and just don't have any ****in time


No reason to shove here

villain is not folding a draw at any point, just fold flop

raise flop

nice big raise pre, as played raise flop bigger


bet?

check flop is better to pot control/close action/protect your equity

I know.. it wasn't a good play at all. But this guy had been calling big bets very light before. Unfortunately he connected with that draw heavy board.

Be careful what you wish for, I guess.

imho, i disagree with a good amount of this advice.

$5 full buyin is $12.50 - 250BB.

Fair enough buddy, I will stop hassling MasQ

You dont want them to. You played fine, he got lucky - this time. Mostly you will win his stack in this spot.

Should have raised a LOT more pre flop. When you play against some donk like this with huge VPIP, just tighten up a bit and bide your time. Play lots of Axs and SC's with him and hope he catches a bit when you hit big.

FALSE. Every time a card must be dealt, stars chooses at random from all available decks given the circumstances. so for instance if there are 3 people in the hand and each are dealt 2 cards and you fold pre, when the flop is to be dealt the algorithm goes "choose a deck from all possible decks where these 6 cards have been dealt && the person holding XY has folded" which of course is going to be different (a lot of times) to "choose a deck from all possible decks where these 6 cards have been dealt"

multiquote plz, quad posts not acceptable

1. if he's calling a jam with any of those hands on the flop he's also calling if we spread it out on flop+turn. we just give him the opportunity to herofold when we jam, it's fairly senseless.

2. raising pre is fine, they will call with dominated hands, if they don't we will capitalise on a ton of dead money, we will take it down a good % of the time when we don't hit b/c we have initiative.

3. we have basically no fe on this board, we don't have a nut draw, leading is pretty horrible 4 way.

'close action' wasn't really the right term in its usual context but we 'close' the opportunity for the action to get out of control by initially checking. semantics aside, there is no reason to lead here.

imo

An old classmate wrote to me on fbook last night. I knew he made a living playing poker, and he asked me if I wanted to become a better player. Ofc, who the hell doesn't? So he gave me access to bluefirepoker.com

I've watched a few vids on the micro stakes so far and they seem really good, looking forward to plowing through some more!

Wouldn't this be considered continuous shuffle style? If so.. then this is incorrect unless Stars has changed this recently... as they have always been a static shuffle company.

From what I remember - Stars = Static / FTP = Dynamic.

Currently on a small swing - down around $200ish due to run bad + a small bit of tilt juice.

Is there anything for 2nl/5nl? or straight into 25NL like most sites micro coverage seems to be.

Chad

keep up the good work thanks for the suggestion for the book will take a look at it

Okay, im trying a new style at 5NL trying to play pretty LAG(ish) and focus on hand reading. I tried a 3 barrel bluff here, is this a good spot vs a fairly weak passive player.

Iv never been a massive bluffer at lower stakes because you get called a lot lighter.

Can anyone explain me the role of this thread?