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07-04-2008 , 09:02 AM
Haha. Yeah, I'm really comfortable at NL2. After successfully beating NL25 but not being able to take the swings of NL50 I withdrew all my bankroll as:

A. I wanted a new challenge, grinding up from $10 will provide this.
B. Leave my work soon to start college so need all the money I can get.

I would open up a bit wider on the BTN but with NL2 there's just too many limpers to make it profitable with anything but the better hands. I'm sure as I move up there will be more opportunities to steal and play aggressively in position but the way these donks down here play, I don't think this is the right place.
07-04-2008 , 05:33 PM
I played 11 $1.20s today, 5 cashes. 4 4ths, and a bad beat AA<56o for a 9th. I keep losing flips on the bubble it seems.
Played 2 yesterday, with 2 wins. brainstorm railed me and gave me some tips, and that helped today in that it didn't suck as bad as most fridays do. My sharkscope is positive for the first time in my sng career, and I hope to keep it that way.
07-04-2008 , 05:47 PM
Pretty good morning so far, did some 1/2 stud for a while today, mostly to grind out some VPP and FPP, and then changed it up and played in some 5.50 STTs, ended up winning 3, getting 3rd in another, and 2 losses (one early, 2 pair on flop lost to rivered 2 pair AJ vs AK)

Here is my sharkscope graph, please note that I started back after a 2 year absence at around game 205.



Roll at 638, after breaking 600 for the 4th time.
07-04-2008 , 06:38 PM
i'm in panic. i didnt make a penny in the last 6000 hands. still at 400$. winrate at 10NL below 10BB/100.

i suck

the plan was to reach 1000$ end of juli...
07-04-2008 , 06:59 PM
i'm a newbie on twoplustwo so this is probably the wrong place. But i was wondering what a good BB/100 hands is at 1/2 NL stakes? i'm sitting at 13.64 in a period of 22k hands and im wondering where i am sitting compared with everyone else here?
07-04-2008 , 08:05 PM
About 20 pages back I posted that I was starting from $30. Since then I have only been able to play a few hands due to college work. Results so far:




Can get a decent number of hands in now though, and will probably play about 5k this weekend. Will update again Sunday evening.
07-04-2008 , 09:19 PM
I'd like to jump on board aswell, I just found this thread now and think its a great idea.. I only started playing with real cash 12 days ago now.. heres my graph .. I'm playin nl2 at the moment
only started playing 6max today(last 2k hands) which was a breath of fresh air after that nasty chunk of variance :/

Last edited by tadhgire; 07-04-2008 at 09:26 PM.
07-05-2008 , 01:23 AM
oh lord... how did i play this hand? the guy is 100/0/0.5 (literally!!!)

i get outplayed lost all winnings of hours again.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $6.70
BTN: $24.60
SB: $19.90
BB: $10.50
UTG: $8.60
Hero (MP): $9.40

Pre Flop: Hero is MP with Q Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, CO calls $0.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($1.15) 6 9 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, CO calls $1.10

Turn: ($3.35) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, CO calls $2

River: ($7.35) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, CO raises to $3.05 all in, Hero calls $1.05

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $13.45
CO shows Ah 5h (a straight, Five to Nine)
Hero mucks Qs Qh
CO wins $12.85
(Rake: $0.60)


too spewy on the river?

from what hands might i get value of? the last days i got RRAI in these spots by ace-high a couple of times.

last evening same thing a 90/0/0 has a flushdraw on turn. calls my bet for 80% of his stack and puts the last 50cent into a 5$ pot on the river after he hit.

the point is: i cannot assume that they hit their gutshots and longlonglongshots all the time, right?

Last edited by bigdonk; 07-05-2008 at 01:42 AM.
07-05-2008 , 01:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdonk
oh lord... how did i play this hand? the guy is 100/0/0.5 (literally!!!)

i get outplayed lost all winnings of hours again.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $6.70
BTN: $24.60
SB: $19.90
BB: $10.50
UTG: $8.60
Hero (MP): $9.40

Pre Flop: Hero is MP with Q Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, CO calls $0.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($1.15) 6 9 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, CO calls $1.10

Turn: ($3.35) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, CO calls $2

River: ($7.35) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, CO raises to $3.05 all in, Hero calls $1.05

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $13.45
CO shows Ah 5h (a straight, Five to Nine)
Hero mucks Qs Qh
CO wins $12.85
(Rake: $0.60)


last evening same thing a 90/0/0 has a flushdraw on turn. calls my bet for 80% of his stack and puts the last 50cent into a 5% pot on the river after he hit. they are simply better players
that 7 on the turn is a good card for you against this player so pot it again on the turn. then you just have chicken scratch left to put in on that awful river
07-05-2008 , 03:23 AM
I started with 30 on May 1st, just cashed my first check for $400.

Now I have been down some since July 1st.

Still running good though.
07-05-2008 , 03:34 AM
Don't have much of a choice on the river, that guy has $3 behind into a pot that's going to be $13 (provided you call). Bet more on the turn, possibly push since he's short.
07-05-2008 , 04:37 AM
ohh 8 buyin downswing how you make break even days feel so good

07-05-2008 , 02:58 PM
Thanks again for recommending me to play razz. People *really* don't have a clue. And let's dispense with bluffs, shall we?
07-05-2008 , 03:05 PM
Hi! Ive been following this thread for some time, btw, congrats to OP.

I think its a great thread, useful and inspiring.

I have $200 on stars... been playing for some time, say 2/3 months, but i just can come out of the break even point!!!

Win some today, lose some tommorrow...

I play mostly NL5.

Does anyone has a better idea on how to get my bankroll to grow consistently??
07-05-2008 , 03:15 PM
Play better, don't get fancy, don't bluff into calling stations, go download the free trial of pokertracker.
07-05-2008 , 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptZaky
Hi! Ive been following this thread for some time, btw, congrats to OP.

I think its a great thread, useful and inspiring.

I have $200 on stars... been playing for some time, say 2/3 months, but i just can come out of the break even point!!!

Win some today, lose some tommorrow...

I play mostly NL5.

Does anyone has a better idea on how to get my bankroll to grow consistently??
Break even is good when you are first starting out, experience is golden. When I first started back, I played very tight, probably at like 12-14% and my postflop play was just bad. The more hands I logged, the more some of the old lessons that I had forgotten had come back to me, and I opened my game up more and more as I went along.

I'd reccomend playing full ring, 6 man, and heads up so you can get better at ranges and postflop play, full ring you will want to be pretty tight, 6 man you will want to loosen up a bit, and heads up you will want to concentrate more on postflop play rather than preflop. Alot of what you learn in 6 man can carry over to full ring once you get past the early positions and are playing from CO or button, and heads up can help with defending your blinds and general postflop play.

Post hands that gave you a hard time in the strategy forums, sometimes other players can see the holes in your game that you have no idea about.

Read the various FAQs that are at the top of the different strategy forums, there is a ton of priceless knowledge in there that you may have no idea about.

Practice on putting people on hand ranges, even on the hands that you are not involved with. Keep in mind the actions that people made on the earlier streets, sometimes someone will play a certain way earlier and then by the river, they are playing their hand very differently. Ask yourself why they are making the plays they are doing, and check to see what people mucked when it goes to showdown to see if you were right, or completely off base.

Practice on pot odds, I cringe when I see someone fold a hand where they have huge odds (I see this more often in tournaments rather than cash, but it's good to keep track of this kind of stuff, the more you do it, the more it becomes second nature).

Practice on position play, try to play most of your hands from the CO or button rather than up front, even a marginal hand on the button is better than alot of hands UTG, just because you have position and will be able to take alot of pots down with nothing when you see weakness.
07-05-2008 , 04:50 PM
Important Announcment



That is my original target reached. Next up, $150 and then I will move up to NL5.

Or maybe I will just blow it all on super-tilt action. Time will tell.
07-05-2008 , 05:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptZaky
Does anyone has a better idea on how to get my bankroll to grow consistently??
I'm not much of a NLHE player, but hold my own in NL5. The one post that got my on the right track was probably WCGRider's.

Something which is also extremely important in all forms of NL is to determine where your profit is going to come from. Are they loose preflop but tight post flop? Raise it in position preflop and c-bet when checked to. That is, play for small pots, but you can of course spice those pots a bit.
Are they tight, but not so aggressive preflop, and willing to shove it with TPTK on the flop or turn? Play hands with good implied odds, if you get the right price.
In my experience, tight and aggressive players should be avoided until you learn how to play against weaker players (but you probably won't encounter many true TAGs in µNL). Loose maniacs can be profitable, but you will need a fairly large bankroll.
With experience, and by reading these forums and perhaps a couple of books or articles, your judgement will get better and your decisions will be more profitable. But that kind of guidelines certainly has its merits.

Also, I think it may be an enlightening experience to learn other poker games. For the last couple of months, I have been mainly playing limit poker and I'm much better at it (compared to my opponents), so it has been much more profitable, and it has been great fun.
07-05-2008 , 05:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pairtheboard69
ohh 8 buyin downswing how you make break even days feel so good

Are you sure you're just not stacking off too much?
07-05-2008 , 06:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruebs
Are you sure you're just not stacking off too much?
Uhm? :S
Honestly, this question looks very silly...
07-05-2008 , 07:00 PM
I think he's asking if he's stacking off light, not too much.
07-05-2008 , 07:03 PM
Well, yeah, but simply looking at the graph, it's still a silly question.
We even don't know the number of hands, and variance can be a female figure who sells her body for money.
07-05-2008 , 08:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Autist18
Well, yeah, but simply looking at the graph, it's still a silly question.
We even don't know the number of hands, and variance can be a female figure who sells her body for money.
stacking off light is what I meant... 8 buyins in one day would constitute a tilt in my opinion...
perhaps a better question: are you sure your aren't just playing bad?
07-05-2008 , 08:59 PM
Reached the $100 mark.. but took longer than it should have because I cant ever decide what i want to play.. 6max..full ring.. single table sngs..multitable sngs... this week I'm dedicating myself to just cash games... and hopefully decide whether I want to focus more on full ring or 6max.. I think (since I'm still playing 2nl) I'll play 6max until i hit about $130.. then try buying in for $5 at 5nl full ring to reduce variance a bit and try to built to ~$150 then hop into 6max again.
07-05-2008 , 11:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruebs
stacking off light is what I meant... 8 buyins in one day would constitute a tilt in my opinion...
perhaps a better question: are you sure your aren't just playing bad?

well i can't just sit and wait for the nuts obvously...

got stacked 3 times by a 70/45 during the swong

my graph was 5k hands btw

      
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