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05-14-2008 , 07:08 PM
Played 1 hour and 30min~

Stakes = 10NL LOL



05-14-2008 , 07:26 PM
Good work.
05-14-2008 , 08:36 PM
Up to $261, I'm loving 18 seaters. At first I thought 4/18 would be hard to get paid into, provided I haven't played very many, but considering I didn't run that great in any of them. I've finished 1st 3 out of the 5 times I've played them.
05-14-2008 , 08:59 PM
got to 100$ today (2NL FR, gazillion hands)
my mind starts spinning with round numbers. took a shot at 10NL. missed.
down to 88$.
05-14-2008 , 10:44 PM
So many quads lately....

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP: $10.36
CO: $2.97
BTN: $6.50
SB: $1.24
Hero (BB): $3.14
UTG: $3.44
UTG+1: $2.92

Pre-Flop: 7 7 dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, CO calls $0.02, BTN calls $0.02, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.07) 7 A 5 (3 Players)
Hero bets $0.18, CO folds, BTN calls $0.18

Turn: ($0.43) 7 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.12, Hero calls $0.12

River: ($0.67) 4 (2 Players)
Hero bets $2.82 and is All-In, BTN calls $2.82

Results: $6.31 Pot ($0.30 Rake)
BTN mucked K A and LOST (-$3.14 NET)
Hero showed 7 7 (four of a kind, Sevens) and WON $6.01 (+$2.87 NET)


From all of my situations so far you just have to kinda small bet..make them take control of the pot and think they have something. I call down until the river to hope they catch another card on the way and then take a little bit of a delay and shove it all. I've been paid off every single quad hand so far.

Let them build the pot up and then shove in like your trying to just buy it...works like a charm.
05-15-2008 , 12:36 AM
Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $5.15
BTN: $7.01
SB: $2.93
BB: $4.83
UTG: $5.29
UTG+1: $5.01
MP1: $5.23
Hero (MP2): $3.72

Pre-Flop: J J dealt to Hero (MP2)
UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to $0.04, Hero raises to $0.08, 5 folds, MP1 calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.21) 7 Q J (2 Players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.21) Q (2 Players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.21) 6 (2 Players)
MP1 bets $0.12, Hero raises to $3.64 and is All-In, MP1 calls $3.52

Results: $7.49 Pot ($0.35 Rake)
MP1 mucked 7 7 and LOST (-$3.72 NET)
Hero showed J J (a full house, Jacks full of Queens) and WON $7.14 (+$3.42 NET)


wait it out......and shove!
05-15-2008 , 01:39 AM
2NL Grinders,

How many hands are you guys playing per day to make such strides? What is your ptbb/100?

I'm running at 15ptbb/100 and getting ready to move up, but you guys must be doing better or are you running well playing tournaments to build up your BR? I don't do so well in SNGs.

BTW, optimus, in my experience you're either going to get paid off or you're not, regardless of how much you bet. :P You could have shoved the flop in both of those and gotten paid off, imo.
05-15-2008 , 04:07 AM
Quote:
If you BR is 70$, having 10$ on the table is too much
But should i play cashgames at all? And now i got 100$, what is my max buy in? .. 5% from my 100$?



And there is a difference between multi-table and single table.. so with 100$ i should play at the single tables.. and just grind it away? And don't go multi-table-ing, because my bankroll doesnt allow me to do that?



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I think what you have to work on is your state of mind. If you want an easy win before tomorrow, play lotto. If you want to be good at poker, grind it up !
We know what you are going through, it is frustrating to start from the micro stakes. With this kind of bankroll, you basically cant even move down stakes. Just keep the spirit, study the game, be decision oriented and not result oriented, grab everything you can to improve (books, softwares, etc..), and you will find your way up.
TY, you are right about this one. And IT is frustrating.. i want to play with better players then people who call a big raise on a 10JK board .. because they have a 10-4

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Also, if you wanna avoid as much as possible variance, I think you should play full ring cash game. If you wanna play sngs, in my experince, 6 max are less swingy.
full ring is 9 players right?
05-15-2008 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDataKid
But should i play cashgames at all? And now i got 100$, what is my max buy in? .. 5% from my 100$?

And there is a difference between multi-table and single table.. so with 100$ i should play at the single tables.. and just grind it away? And don't go multi-table-ing, because my bankroll doesnt allow me to do that?

TY, you are right about this one. And IT is frustrating.. i want to play with better players then people who call a big raise on a 10JK board .. because they have a 10-4

full ring is 9 players right?
If you play cash games (my specialty) then dont sit at the table with more than $5 if you have $100. If you sit at a table with $5 leave if you have more than $12 at risk and go to another table. But if you have $20 at that table and the next closest person has $4 then you dont need to leave because you only have $4 at risk (effective stacks).

Multitabling is up to you. If you are able to do it then you can have 20 tables open with $5 at each of them with a $100 bank roll. This is because you are still spreading the variance out to multiple tables. You arent sitting with your entire roll at risk at one table. The big part about multitabling is increase one table at a time. If you hear about people that 12 and 24 table they didnt just jump to that. I started with one table about a year ago and thought 4 tabling was hard. I gradually increased it to my level of comfort and can now 16 table for a couple hours and 12 table for 8+ hours with out losing much of an edge. What ever you do if you dont feel comfortable get rid of a table or two.

Ive heard the argument about wanting to play with better opponents. No you dont. Play with people who are awful. There is more variance in that game but in the long run you will have a higher win rate. This is why there are 4 guys sitting at the 200/400 heads up NL game on FTP but none are playing each other. They are all waiting for Bennymea...umm the fish to come up to play them. I have a win rate of over 25ptbb/100 at .01/.02NL because the play is so awful. But I still have days where I lose $15-$20 in that game because there is so much variance. I have played up through NL$100 and have not had that high of a win rate at any other level.

Yes FR (full ring) is 9 players some times 10 when you play live.
05-15-2008 , 10:33 AM
I'm enjoying reading through some of the trials and tribulation of you builders. I've only been playing online very infrequently for just about a year on a UK site which doesn't work with poker tracker or those hand converters, Skypoker.

One thing that has me stumped is how come your hand postings always show what the villains had when they mucked?

I would love to know whether my reads were right or not if i'd folded or something. How does that work then, and does anyone know if i can get a hand tracker for Skypoker?
05-15-2008 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DanMac
I'm enjoying reading through some of the trials and tribulation of you builders. I've only been playing online very infrequently for just about a year on a UK site which doesn't work with poker tracker or those hand converters, Skypoker.

One thing that has me stumped is how come your hand postings always show what the villains had when they mucked?

I would love to know whether my reads were right or not if i'd folded or something. How does that work then, and does anyone know if i can get a hand tracker for Skypoker?
All the sites I have played on show the villians hand if and only if there was no action on the river or they called a river bet.
05-15-2008 , 11:28 AM
took a little time off... then won some t$, and played 2 5.50 stt. Donked out of the one... won the other, along with a 6th place in a 3.25 45man turbo. Up to about 150. My goal is to hit at least 200, preferably 250, by the 26th. I have 2 weeks off from everything, and plan on putting in massive amounts of hands, so i'd like to be rolled for my favorite games, 5.50 sngs, 4.40 180man sngs, and 5c10c full ring.
05-15-2008 , 03:21 PM
230 i suck, and dont even have graph of losses since playing on diff laptop.
grrrr
05-15-2008 , 03:25 PM
Whats your sn? Ill let you know what I think of your play and some leaks I may see if I run across you on a table. As long as you promise to do the same for me.
05-15-2008 , 03:35 PM
sure, whatcha playin

starrduster

i'm about to start playin in a bit- warmed up w/ a 40fpp- but ak< aj aipf,
05-15-2008 , 03:42 PM
since i bustoed on my other $50 (way underolled for 10nL), i am back with another $50 + RB + 100% bonus, but this time i play to 8 table $2 6max SNG's, because im nicely rolled for them. Will do this till im at $200 and then grind out 10NL & $5 SNG's.
05-15-2008 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GinaSD
sure, whatcha playin

starrduster

i'm about to start playin in a bit- warmed up w/ a 40fpp- but ak< aj aipf,
Im not playing now. I usually play at night 6pm EST. My sn is jasonfish11 on stars. I usually play between .01/.02NL and $10NL but mostly $10NL recently.
05-15-2008 , 04:55 PM
**NOTICE** You must be at least 48" tall to ride this rollercoaster **NOTICE**

-Started with $25
-got up to $121
-took a shot at 5NL & 10NL
-got azz handed to me
-stepped back down to 2NL
-grinding for 5 days, can't get past $90

Sounds like many of us are having the same kind of week. Hopefully a "fishy" weekend can turn things around for all of us!

this graph is strictly 2NL

05-15-2008 , 05:00 PM
Update from me:

107$

from 50$ to 100$ .. just by winning an SnG yesterday...

Now im switching between a nitty cashgame style and a loose (pre flop) SnG style

Try it
it works

Last edited by TheDataKid; 05-15-2008 at 05:25 PM.
05-15-2008 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
took a little time off... then won some t$, and played 2 5.50 stt. Donked out of the one... won the other, along with a 6th place in a 3.25 45man turbo. Up to about 150. My goal is to hit at least 200, preferably 250, by the 26th. I have 2 weeks off from everything, and plan on putting in massive amounts of hands, so i'd like to be rolled for my favorite games, 5.50 sngs, 4.40 180man sngs, and 5c10c full ring.
Small goal almost accomplished.. finished tonight at 195. Took 2nd in a 45 man 3.25 sng... won a few buyins at 2c5c... and hit a nice pot during the beginners game when i hit a gutshot vs top set and top 2pr. 250 should def be doable by the 26th
05-16-2008 , 01:21 AM
i find i do better in cash games... but recently i've been playing tourney's... i've lost a huge amount and am down about 600.

i play tourney's till i get to like 40 bucks... and then i finally make a good pay out only to start over again.

last night i finished 2nd for 186, bringing me back up. i have 220 to mess around with... what should i do stick to nl .50/1$ or 1$/2$ limit. or should i keep joining low limit tourney buy in's.

ie 3.20/2.20 with 1k+ entries?

i have a bad time deciding what to stick to, because i am basically chasing my 600 that i lost trying to make it back quick.
any advise/criticism is welcome.

thanks, Saw.
05-16-2008 , 02:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sawed-Off

i have a bad time deciding what to stick to, because i am basically chasing my 600 that i lost trying to make it back quick.
any advise/criticism is welcome.

thanks, Saw.


First of all, stop trying to chase your loses and get the money back quick, it will lead to some poor decisions and probably actually hamper your progress toward that goal. Be patient and grind it up, I would recommend if you feel you are better at cash games play them primarly at a level you can beat to increase your bankroll with most of your time and perhaps a quarter of the time if you enjoy tourneys play them. IE if you play 4 nights a week play cash 3 nights and 1 night a week fire up a few tourneys. If you play tourneys within your BR limits and can beat the cash games you play your BR will continue to go up even if you dont cash big in the tourneys for awhile.
05-16-2008 , 03:20 AM
up to 319 after a nice finish in a 4/180 donkament tonight.

yay

Last edited by GinaSD; 05-16-2008 at 03:28 AM.
05-16-2008 , 03:34 AM
Graph as it stands now. Don't pay attention to the days, some days I only played 100 hands(as you notice only 16k hands for 23 days) at most and didn't really start grinding until last week. So far I think it is coming along pretty well even though some days are tougher than others. I plan to grind up 2NL a bit more and maybe throw in an occasional MTT and hope to cash big.

Current BR: $103.50 from 20$.

05-16-2008 , 03:39 AM
that's nice Gina, is your sn the same on PS?

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Originally Posted by TreeFarm
First of all, stop trying to chase your loses and get the money back quick, it will lead to some poor decisions and probably actually hamper your progress toward that goal. Be patient and grind it up, I would recommend if you feel you are better at cash games play them primarly at a level you can beat to increase your bankroll with most of your time and perhaps a quarter of the time if you enjoy tourneys play them. IE if you play 4 nights a week play cash 3 nights and 1 night a week fire up a few tourneys. If you play tourneys within your BR limits and can beat the cash games you play your BR will continue to go up even if you dont cash big in the tourneys for awhile.
i love tournaments, especially the thought of buying in with say 5.50 in a rebuy only rebuying maybe once, and using an add on, and the possibility of winning 2k+ if there are enough entries, which their normally are.

the lure of buying in at low cost and winning a potential nice profit is what draws me to a tourney, or sitNgo. thoe only thing is my consistency is way off, like i said i win a small 100+ profit now and then, but i lose far more than i win. and playing limit poker at those stakes, takes alot of patience when you are already 600 in the hole.

i just wish i had started off slow and more careful, before i found myself in over my head. when i started, i had a profit of 600, now i'm down 600 of actual deposit money out of my pocket. that's not counting the 600 profit i also lost makes me depressed just having typed that.


i want just one big 1st or second place for 1k or more

      
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