So i've decided to play seriously. I said to myself, i play 5 sng's a day no matter what the result is. Day 1, won 4 out of 5 sngs. Day 2, lost 3 then kept playing more and more then played out of my br in order to "get it back" and finally blew bankroll.

This seems to be my problem all the time. After deposit the first day i play well and make profit and the second day i loosen up and play no where near like i do the day of deposit. I take poker more seriously when I have a week break and then say, if i blow this br im not playing then i deposit play seriously 1 day then blow br.

I really thought it's going to work if i play only 5 sng's a day as it takes 5hours to play 5 regular sng's which is enough for me but it looks like i was wrong.

I'm quitting poker. If i ever try again it will most likely be in a years time when i grow up as I cannot believe that i have done it again. I cant stick to 1 simple rule. Play x amount a day and stop.

Did any of you have a similar problem where you played good 1 day then lost later because of playing looser?

Everyone has had this happen. Not everyone has had this happen to the extent of blowing a bankroll.

play hypers

bigger bankroll?

take up a hobby that requires discipline. i.e. work out regimen. Do something that requires you to stick to a plan. Discipline doesn't just happen for most people. You have to work at it. Have someone call you and tell you to stop. Accountability is important. There is nothing more damaging to your game than tilt. I know. I still tilt sometimes and I am a very controlled person.

+1

Everyone has to pay some sort of fee to learn the game, you obviously dont have a big enough bankroll to handle the loses, losing 10% of your bankroll in one game is going to hurt, when you lose 40% in 4 games your going to tilt, work on bankroll management and then work on discipline.

I had 50$ for the 1.50$ sng's which is over 30buy-ins. I think its enough for this level. I was planning to make higher requirements for higher stakes.

Quitting probably is good option Tbh.

There is nothing wrong with quitting if you figure you can't control your obvious tilt issues. Better to be breakeven by not playing than a losing player because you can't stop.

If you only wanted to play recreationally and consider poker money an entertainment expense then thats cool but this doesn't sound like your problem.

Taking a (long) break might be a good start.

Only winning players have bankrolls.

The rest of us are on a training budget.

Good Luck.

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You need 100 buy-ins, and you have to make +EV decisions.

Also, tighten up your range according to your position, and really tighten up your range when OOP, don't be a fish OTF.

UTG - AJ/77 is tight but you wanna be able to flat when you get a CIB, maybe toss in a few JTs.

2.5bb pre when you open.

Do HH reviews with study groups in here, and post hands in MTTSNG for discussion.

Playing those stakes...Will be really hard to build a bankroll. Theyre more accessible to bad players that dont know how to play and make terrrible moves when they should be technically folding..For some reason you only remember when a donk sucks out on you. Dont worry if theyre playing like that then they only loose it elsewhere.

Youd think that youd want to play with bad players and just rip them up... but theres no discipline, no real strategy, which means when you get in pots with these guys, make them pay. LOL this is where you think your QQ is good when the flop is 2-10-4 and the guy has 2 pair. If you know hes a donk and plays wild just re pop him all in instead of even calling and seeing a flop. winning small pots is better than nothing.

But to the donk guy Ive seen it where people make raises, and i just shove with KK because I dont want the guy playing a pot with me, and they get so heated that you shoved they just HAVE to call with 10-j or some bad hand like that. Its like auto tilt for them lol. sometimes they win, most of the time they loose but you got it in good.


Every situation is different however. With a $50 BR id be playing the freerolls too and take a shot, atleast its experience.

If internet poker was still good, id say you gotta put like $200 on there and play <$5 games. <$10 cash games. even thats risky.

This is ******ed whining, you hate playing against bad players because they are bad???

Move up to where they respect your raises?

in any event, OP's problem is a familair one most online players struggled with in the beginning.

OP, the reason why you are having this problem is not only because of lack of discipline (though that is a huge part of it) but because to you, poker is gambling.

To you, poker is no different than blackjack. And like any gambling game, you chase your losses.

Instead, if you thought of poker in the +EV longterm, then poker would seem like one long game that never ends. So there are no losses to chase. You just play your A-game or B-game and stop playing whenever you are no longer playing your A-game or B-game.

Lastly, it sounds like you don't know how to properly set and reach goals. I'd suggest you literally go to Amazon right this second and buy a book on "how to make, reach, and attain goals" or something to that effect.

There is a whole process to developing and realizing goals and its obvious you know nothing about successfully doing that.

Blew bankroll... No way? Are you kidding?

Seriously, WhoTF hasn't at least once when they're starting out?
(I may have two, er, uh, maybe three times lol)

+1

Sorry, if I sound harsh, but wrong idea of what playing seriously is, wrong focus, wrong rule...

Below is what I had to figure out and do to get past where you are.

F*ck playing for the money; Play to Win the Tourney!

Play to show people who the best player in the tournement is. If you're not the best player in the tourney yet, keep working. (I'm constantly trying to get better, because I'm not always the best. Not even close sometimes.) Your entire line of thinking, including the rule you decided on are centered on the bankroll, not playing to be the best in the tourney, because you're not concerned about the result of the 5 games you decided to play in the rule. Forget about the money and focus on winning tourneys. When you play to win the tourney, rather than focusing on the money you will finish higher and win more tourneys and the money will be a nice byproduct.

Simple Solution? (This is what I did)

Don't Ever Make Another Deposit!

Play freerolls till you cash, then use what you win as a buyin. If you lose it, you're back to freerolls till you cash again.

My guess is, if you're like me and you can't stand playing in freerolls, you'll learn bankroll management in a hurry after you cash in a couple, especially if you cash and then drop it back to zero right away and have to play in the stinkin freerolls until you have a buyin again.

This is God awful. Don't do things because you're afraid to see a flop. Winning small pots is not better than nothing. It's worse than nothing in the long run because you're turning what should be small losses and large wins into small wins.

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So you decided to play seriously and expected to win?

W/e you deposit is your training budget as DD said until you prove you are winning. (over more than 5 games a day)

Have fun learning and losing. Expecting to win = insta-tilt

I can stick to bankroll management for the first day of the deposit. I have made another plan. Play freerolls and make enough money to enter a 1.50 sng. If i win it, im playing till i first lose. This could be a good idea since when i start playing and lose the first tournament i enter i usually chase the loss for the rest of the day therefore if i win (or atleast cash in a sng) ill just keep playing but if i lose the first sng of the day it will be better to just give up for the day. Let's see how it goes.

bumblebee99 - that's the problem. I cannot make myself think that I'm just training. I really need a lot of money and this is the main cause of me making such stupid decisions. I just can't force myself to learn with whatever money i have and what i do is try to win 90% of the tournaments i enter and move up in stakes ASAP. I know this is not how it will work but how do I tell this to myself?

That's your problem.

Poker is a bitch. It is not the quick answer to making money, especially for a novice. If you;re playing to win, because you need the money, it only leads to frustration when you lose. Trust me, I know

I almost agree with your decision, and the advice, to quit. Stop playing to win. Play to learn. Get the money you need from somewhere else. A job or w/e.

Take all your money off the web, expect for $75. Play the $1 SNG's. Yeah, you;re not gonna pay the rent (you likely never will from poker, sorry!). Play to get better. Learn about how to beat them.

I guarantee that hanging around these forums will have you beating the $1's, $3's and $7's in no time. That is still not enough to get a big extra paycheck. But it will stand you in good stead to decide whether to carry on moving up, or whether you have the aptitude for it. Not everyone has.

All the best

If you are not a winning player you don't have BRM issues.........

^^ This is such a simple concept, that it's not always easy to grasp Particularly as all anyone talks about is BRM yada yada

Edit: To prove you are a winning player you need a sizeable sample

We'll see how the freerolls go. I certainly won't invest any of my own money in poker anymore

Come on dude, that's like an alcoholic saying I can stay off the sauce ... until I have a drink.

FYP.

And good for you. Excellent way to play some poker, get better, and not lose any money.

Anyone lols @ you playing freerolls, tell them go **** themselves. You will get lots of help here in Beginners Questions.

Hey, hey hey...........I can stay off the sau............oh w/e man