Can anyone help me with a bet size please

Let’s say we’re playing 6max and in BB with AA

If UTG raises to 3BB my standard size would be to 3bet him 12BB.

So what if the same scenario happens but we gets 2 or 3 callers along the way? How much should we re-raise?

Thanks

Or call.

In some research I did with hero betting 3bb and up to 5 callers, the more callers the better when holding AA. This suggests not to raise so much that it would thin the field. Different conclusions were found for other hands.

The following thread provides the details:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...hinninghttp://

Thanks for this info mate. Very interesting but I think maybe I didn’t make it clear what I was asking...

So UTG open raise 3bb
MP Call
HJ Call
CO Call
BU Call
SB fold
BB with AA re-raise how much?

Or are you trying to tell me it’s best to play this 5-way?

IMO the study shows that you may 'still' have an advantage (perhaps winning a larger pot) once the Flop comes out. You still have the issue of stack sizes, actual opponent types and trying to navigate this OOP. I have no issue with suggesting that flatting here can probably be part of your game more often than most think it should be ... but you really need to have a grasp of your post-Flop play/discipline.

Back to your OP ... and again back to stack depth and Opponent types. I don't really see many Players going less than 'pot' here, so a raise to 18 BB. Some might even put a 'penalty' on this for being OOP of 1/2 to 1-1/2 BB per opponent, so 20-24 BB. In the online world this may be too high, perhaps a raise to 12 BB is enough to send a strong message (and not necessarily narrow you down to AA/KK).

The 'issue' with any smaller raise IMO is the cascade effect that may happen at a really deep table. If MP or HJ call, then both CO and BU may see attractive pot odds IP. Then you just end up in the same type of spot as if you were to flat ... only in an inflated pot, and still OOP.

So that basis of the study lends you to decide how to rank these 'options' based on your stack depth and table dynamic ... You can feel more 'correct' by flatting than maybe you would've otherwise!

1) HU OOP against a 'strong' range of a calling opponent ... larger raise
2) OOP, with a Flop edge, in a controlled pot against wide ranges ... flat
3) OOP, with a Flop edge, but in a blotted pot against narrower ranges ... smaller raise allowing for pot odds to 2nd/3rd caller

You have to know your game, if you don't really feel that you can navigate post-Flop very well, then you need to lean a bit towards the larger raises. However, it wouldn't hurt to show up with an AA flat here on occasion so that when you flat with JTs your range wont be so 'midling'. GL

Thankyou answer20 for such a detailed response, I’m so glad I made this post. Right now I’m only playing 10NL so I don’t worry too much about being balanced but EVERY time I have kings or aces I’m raising to try and get as less opponents as possible which I always thought was the best thing to do, now I know there’s other ways of doing things and this will help me going forward. The reason I wrote this post is because I was in this scenario and I was thinking what to raise too, safe to say I went overboard and just won the money in the middle due to all the folds, can’t remember what it was but I think I did 12BB + 3BB per player, so probably a bit much. Thanks again for your response it was very helpful

If you normally go with a 4x raise for your 3-bets, then just add 1 to that multiplier for each player that called the initial raise.
e.g. If there was a 3x raise and 1 caller, make it 5x. If there were 2 callers, make it 6x.

(Personally I just pot it, so my 3-bet would usually be 9.5bb if there was a single raiser, and 12.5bb vs a raise and 1 caller, 15.5bb if two callers, unless I'm in the SB where a pot-sized raise is slightly bigger).

Thanks mate, yeah I usually go 3x IP and 4x OOP but I’ve done very little 3betting and 4betting work yet hence this post, in future I’ll just add the 1x for each caller. Similar to when people limp pre then really, usually I’m opening 2.5-3bb then +1 per limpers, easy when you know eh