Ok, so this just happened in a 2NL cash game, I know I played it bad, but would like some insight on this.

on BTN there was a reg with 14/11 1agf, I tried playing aggressively against him with a 3bet raise he called. I bet 75% pot on the flop, he calls, I bet 75% again and he calls yet again. Now on the river I kind of gave up, maybe my judgement was not solid because I had 15 tables running.
If I went for 3rd barrel, would he have folded? Since he ckecked in the end, or could I have played it differently with different bet-sizing to make him fold? or was this simply a bad play overall?

Seat 1: Villain BTN ($2.28 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero BB ($1.94 in chips)
Hero: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero BB [T T]
Villain1: folds
Villain2: folds
Villain3: folds
Villain4: folds
Villain BTN: raises $0.06
Villain6: folds
Hero BB: raises $0.18
Villain BTN: calls $0.12
*** FLOP *** [3 5 5]
Hero BB: bets $0.21
Villain BTN: calls $0.21
*** TURN *** [3 5 5] [6]
Hero BB: bets $0.57
Villain BTN: calls $0.57
*** RIVER *** [3 5 5 6] [Q]
Hero BB: checks
Villain BTN: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [T T] (two pair, Tens and Fives)
Villain: shows [J J] (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
Villain collected $1.86 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.93 | Rake $0.07
Board [3 5 5 6 Q]

I'm new to hand posting and evaluation, so if the format is a bit bad, please give some advice.

There is probably some glaring error that I have missed but I think your play was fine. You had a good overpair and until the river, the board probably missed his range. The Queen was a danger card but at that point you couldnt really fold so a check seems fine. You were both nervous by then because figuring out which one of you was ahead would have been pretty tough. As it turned out he had a better overpair but he may also have had overpairs which you dominated.

So I feel it was fine and am eager for someone to point out any mistakes so I can learn for my own play.

Stop playing 15 tables, you're just clicking buttons.

Why on earth are you so focused on "making him fold"? Are you trying to get people to fold everything every single hand or something? You have a hand that is somewhat strong but not super good, don't try to bet 3 streets in the hopes someone will sometimes (but probably never) fold a better hand, get it to showdown for 1 or 2 bets.

Learn to decide the proper use for a bet, don't just bet because you have the option to.

IMO don't need to 3bet that are from BB,that makes your range depolarized from BB and you don't want that.And definitely NOT against a nit,IMO.

As played, c/c turn to pick his floats.

I disagree. 3betting polarized is great in position, out of position though your hand loses a lot of its playability and seeing flops is not all that fantastic any more.

Whether or not you should 3bet a nit with TT is another matter.

IMO you're using 'Out of position' in a wrong way.

It's not the same 3betting from SB and BB.Both require extremely different strategies.

From SB we should be willing to 3bet depolarized,given we want most of the time ensure HU and reduce SPR against the raiser that has position on us.We shouldn't have a flatting range here at all.(Unless we want to exploit a fish or a mad squeezer on BB)

From BB,we often get the incentive to flat a lot from there(from pot odds).
That said,when we 3bet depolarized,our flatting range from BB becomes weak.That's why I think we should flat more of our middle hands on BB and 3bet a depolarized range.

If you're interested,you may want to take a look here,there's a good discussion about it.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh....php?t=1523339

I had a slight typo in my BB argument. now It's corrected.

So we are on the same page that we should prefer to 3bet merged (depolarized) from the BB?

No

Ah I see the typo now. That makes more sense.

I'm a complete newb, so go easy on me

Thanks for the reply.

Might be a noob thing to say, but I feel comfortable with 15 tables. I have them stacked nicely and whenever I need to focus properly, I drag a table to the side of my screen and I focus. I can do that to 4 tables total, while folding on all the stacked ones. I am arrogant a bit, because I perform way better on 5 tables.

Since he was on the BTN and raised, I put him on a wide range even though he was a nit. I 3bet him in hopes he will fold, but after he called my 3bet, I thought of him having AT-AK. I was confident enough that he was floating with that range. That's why I got scared on the river. I was more or less going for value, rather than making him fold.

Thanks for the reply..
I already learned something new from this thread. The meaning of Polarized and Depolarized 3bet ranges. That concept is completely unheard of and new for me, so thanks

Thanks for the link, I'll lurk through it

That's the major issue in this hand, regardless of which range you should 3bet.

You're 3betting TT here vs someone who is pretty nitty and because he doesn't have very many hands that he raises for value that are worse than TT (or are in good shape), it's pretty tough to actually 3bet this one for value and get called by a lot worse. Against a 40/35 maniac you can 3bet/5bet this all day long and be happy about it but in this case it's a bit less straight forward.

Against this nit, 3betting TT or a weak value hand is pretty pointless because he is only going to continue with better or at least flipping. You may as well have 3bet A2s if you were going to have a hand with equity that doesn't really want to be called. If he continues you're beat but you block some of the hands he continues with (half the AA combos and 1/4 of his AK/AQ). 3betting polarized does work better against nits than maniacs who also call a lot of 3bets, against those I really do advice 3betting more merged for value.

Thank you for your time to reply, I'll take notes and learn from this

This^.
And to emphasize, you generally want to 3bet polarized from BB against guys who either 4bet or fold.

BUT,there are certainly cases ( as Kelvis described)where we want to 3bet depolarized from BB,and this is when the raiser call a lot of 3bets AND don't realize we're doing this,because that makes our flatting range considerably weaker and extremely more exploitable.

I think you'll find he has JJ-88 pretty often, especially when he calls on the flop.
AK would usually 4-bet. AQs-ATs and KQs would probably flat, but there are only 4 combos of those that get beyond the flop.

I think your line is fine, but I'd be tempted to check(-call) the turn and check(-fold) the river. He wouldn't bet the river with any hands you beat, but he's also not folding anything that beats you if you turn your SDV hand into a bluff.

Answering OP,3 bet bigger preflop also.

Make it at least 10bb.

I cannot understand why someone who has just heard of the concept of a polarised 3 bet range is playing 15 tables. It sounds like you have much to learn theoretically and if that is the case you should be playing ONE table rather than turning the complex game of poker into a button clicking reflex test. I guarantee if you are a beginner and playing all those tables you are losing money by the stack.

I'm not 3betting this against a nit. Standard 3bet vs regs though. Postflop I'd consider value betting the river, apart from that it's fine.

I don't get it,explain yourself sir.Why this is a standard 3bet against a reg reg if we're supposed to 3bet polarized?
Is TT near 'the top' of our range?

Yeah, I'm 3betting TT+ AQ+ as a default for value, some go wider.

I'm not particularly polarized when I 3-bet OOP against a reg. Regs tend to call at some frequency, so I want more value hands.
A nit will usually 4-bet or fold though, so you don't necessarily put TT in your 3-bet range against him (you're drawing almost dead against his 4-bets), as there is probably more EV in flatting.

I do admit that I shouldn't be playing that many tables, and yes, I have much to learn theoretically, since every time I learn something new, I see the learning curve going steeper.

I'm not really a "beginner" in a sense, I'm a beginner in the advanced part of poker.
Like for example, today I ran real hot on a 5NL zoom table and after few hours I ended up with roughly 480BB's, which actually means nothing because I donked -20 dollars while multi-tabling 10 more tables. Actually, variance screwed me, but who needs excuses, I could have avoided that if I played less tables.. So I aggree with the things you say.

These two statements pretty much contradict each other. Understand that you have a very very long way to go.

I've got no problem with your 3-bet pre. A 14/11 overall is going to be open-raising a lot more than 11% OTB. You are well ahead of his range. When he calls that, you are still comfortably ahead of his range.

C-betting here is fine. Flop is not terribly wet, and is unlikely to have hit villain. When he calls however, you have to think about what his range could be. There are not a lot of combos that could call that are not ahead of you. Few combos that are ahead of you would have any reason to fold. For those reasons, I'd probably check the turn.

If your objective was to make him fold., checking the turn and betting the river would probably have been more successful than betting all three streets. The Q is unlikely to have helped any hand betting the turn. OTOH AQ and KQs could be in your range for a PFR and c-bet. But making him fold might not be the correct objective. Which better hands are likely to fold, and why? If he either has a better hand that won't fold or a worse hand, your objective should be to get to showdown without spending too much.