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08-04-2013 , 08:00 PM
Best hand won...
SB was a gem. Think he had call pre-checked for every hand, previously called a 3 way AIPF with 24o...

PokerStars - $0.23+$0.02|50/100 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 1,635
UTG: 1,015 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
UTG+1: 2,020 (VPIP: 15.91, PFR: 13.95, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 44)
UTG+2: 1,150 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
MP: 2,850 (VPIP: 68.97, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 29)
MP+1: 2,383 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
CO: 3,465 (VPIP: 48.65, PFR: 10.81, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 37)
BTN: 1,610 (VPIP: 29.73, PFR: 2.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)
SB: 5,690 (VPIP: 83.78, PFR: 16.22, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 37)

SB posts SB 50, Hero posts BB 100

Pre Flop: (pot: 150) Hero has J J

fold, fold, fold, MP calls 100, MP+1 calls 100, CO raises to 300, fold, SB calls 250, Hero raises to 1,635 and is all-in, fold, fold, CO calls 1,335, SB calls 1,335

Flop: (5,105, 3 players) 4 3 4
SB checks, CO checks

Turn: (5,105, 3 players) 8
SB bets 4,055 and is all-in, CO calls 1,830 and is all-in

River: (8,765, 3 players) J

Spoiler:
SB shows 7 4 (Three of a Kind, Fours) (Pre 15%, Flop 83%, Turn 90%)
CO shows T T (Two Pair, Tens and Fours) (Pre 17%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows J J (Full House, Jacks full of Fours) (Pre 68%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 5,105
SB wins 3,660
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08-04-2013 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AlienSpaceBat



You stole my graph......
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08-04-2013 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AlienSpaceBat



Change graph to big blinds and should be less painful.

How you change the evline color?.
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08-04-2013 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by A_Schupick
You stole my graph......
Oh man, I hope not.

I hope there isn't anyone else around here who has run like this recently.

I am kinda used to downswings (lol PLO), but even I don't remember being $6,000 under EV in 2 days before
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08-05-2013 , 01:10 AM
http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hand...622_03B4FD4AD7

too thin vs a non full stack fish?
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08-05-2013 , 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by birdayy
http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hand...622_03B4FD4AD7

too thin vs a non full stack fish?
squeeze vs. fish oop? might not be the best idea. versus fish you do have equity with AJo, and I'd just flat pre, depending on SB's stats. In a typical 3b pot money's most likely to go in here, although I'd prefer a 1/2 pot bet otr rather than shoving because worse hands aren't likely to call here, AT might call here sometimes. some stats would be nice too.
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08-05-2013 , 09:27 AM
1. Don't tend to chase draws, but I think he gave me odds to call.

iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): $4.92
BB: $1.29 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG: $1.30 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
CO: $9.59 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 12.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)
BTN: $2.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has 5 A

fold, fold, BTN calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.16, fold, BTN calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.36, 2 players) 3 7 J
Hero bets $0.20, BTN calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.76, 2 players) K
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08

River: ($0.92, 2 players) 4
Hero bets $0.46, BTN calls $0.46

Spoiler:
Hero shows 5 A (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 63%, Flop 55%, Turn 18%)
BTN shows 3 K (Two Pair, Kings and Threes) (Pre 37%, Flop 45%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins $1.72


2. Fish donking almost always means they have something. Almost raised flop but I only ever have 1 pair so happy to just call I think although it feels a little passive.

iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): $4.16
CO: $4.14 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BTN: $2.32 (VPIP: 40.91, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
SB: $7.34 (VPIP: 63.16, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
BB: $4.87 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 4.51, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 408)
UTG: $3.23 (VPIP: 31.91, PFR: 12.77, 3Bet Preflop: 3.26, Hands: 244)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has A T

fold, Hero raises to $0.12, fold, fold, SB calls $0.10, fold

Flop: ($0.28, 2 players) 5 T 7
SB bets $0.12, Hero calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.52, 2 players) 6
SB bets $0.16, Hero calls $0.16

River: ($0.84, 2 players) 5
SB bets $0.24, Hero calls $0.24

Spoiler:
Hero shows A T (Two Pair, Tens and Fives) (Pre 62%, Flop 81%, Turn 89%)
SB shows 7 Q (Two Pair, Sevens and Fives) (Pre 38%, Flop 19%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins $1.24


3. Too big a bet on turn? Thinking I should have bet less to keep flush draws in, but I guess fish often call anyway.

iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $5.16 (VPIP: 25.81, PFR: 20.43, 3Bet Preflop: 9.76, Hands: 93)
Hero (BB): $4.00
UTG: $6.77 (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 60.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP: $6.14 (VPIP: 21.74, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
CO: $5.00 (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BTN: $4.04 (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has A A

UTG raises to $0.12, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.44, UTG calls $0.32

Flop: ($0.90, 2 players) 4 3 A
Hero bets $0.63, UTG calls $0.63

Turn: ($2.16, 2 players) 3
Hero bets $1.51, fold

Spoiler:
Hero shows A A (Full House, Aces full of Threes)
Hero wins $2.02
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08-05-2013 , 09:59 AM
H1, barrel the turn, as played river needs to be bigger.
H2 seems fine.
H3 I'd play this for three streets because it's tough to get stacks in in two. Bet about 60% pot on every street (or jam the river). It's tough to get paid there though - it seems most of my sets are with AA.
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08-05-2013 , 10:58 AM
Did just play a really fun HU match and I'm getting excited to play again

What do you guys think of my 25NL stats from last month?



I was actually really surprised to see my fold to 3bet%, seems like wtf so high why did I fold so much? Also barely winning anything at BTN is probably just really bad run, can't think of anything else
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08-05-2013 , 11:13 AM
Yeah f3b% is way too high. Also, cbet is a little low but not a big deal tbh.
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08-05-2013 , 12:07 PM
Just ended my first month of live play. Bankroll $1768.

Initial investment - $485.
Partial investment - $800.

I'm working 32 hours in one week as a home health aide, and the rest of the time playing at a casino 60 miles away, while living out of my car.

I started really well the first night I went and got my bankroll up to $1200 and decided it would be in best interest to drive 250 miles to a neighboring casino as I had heard the games were very good. I spent 200 on the trip and played terribly mixed with a little bit of card dead. The games weren't as good as at my casino and was either placed at the wrong table or lied to; there was actually a guy who had just placed in a major event and cashed decently sitting with me 2/3 times I played there. I lost all but $200 and so I added $800 to my roll and continued playing at the closer casino.

So far I've cashed $1800, payed a few expenses, and working my shifts and then driving to the casino at night. Once my bankroll is at $15,000 I'm going to quit my job and travel around playing poker.

Peace guys.
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08-05-2013 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by birdayy
Yeah f3b% is way too high. Also, cbet is a little low but not a big deal tbh.
Agree with this. Was going to PM you actually but internet has been down until about an hour ago. In particular when we've played I've noticed your ft3b is very high. Makes you very easy to play against tbh, especially IP.

I'd say you're also playing too may hands in BB, but depends how confident you are OOP. You also may be a touch loose in EP and MP, but again depends on your style and postflop skills. From what I've seen of 25nl the table often has one or two LAGs so opening those %s may not be profitable, especially given you fold to every 3bet. Obv your w$sd stat is a bit low too (over 50% is the benchmark I believe) so maybe some better decision making needed there or even on previous streets so you don't get in such sticky spots.

Just my 2c
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08-05-2013 , 05:42 PM
Was just browsing thru my HEM from last session last month and saw this hand.
Villain is completely unknown, just sat down.

I think pretty standard until the turn? How do you play it? Bet for value or check/call, check/fold? If we get to the river, what cards effect your decisions there?


    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18735851

    BTN: $25 (100 bb)
    SB: $25.32 (101.3 bb)
    BB: $12.83 (51.3 bb)
    UTG: $28.65 (114.6 bb)
    Hero (MP): $26.27 (105.1 bb)
    CO: $25 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with J J
    UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.75, CO folds, BTN raises to $2.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.75

    Flop: ($5.35) 3 5 4 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN checks

    Turn: ($5.35) 2 (2 players)





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    08-05-2013 , 06:03 PM
    I'd fold pre but then again I fold way too much probably
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    08-05-2013 , 06:20 PM
    Depending on villain, I'd 4bet pre.
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    08-05-2013 , 06:28 PM
    Folding JJ to a 3b from button is way too nitty readless.
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    08-05-2013 , 07:53 PM
    @ roszz

    -Like has been said your FT3b is far far too high. Your leaking a massive amount of money from it. I had the same problem not to long ago. I fixed it by working out all my standard ranges in stove(opening,call 3bt IP, call 3bet OOP, 3bet and 4bet ranges) and taking a screenshot of it. Now I have them in flopzilla but its same diff. Make sure as a standard you aren't folding any more than 66% of your range to a 3bet.
    A good side effect of this is it helps you get a clearer visualization of your range which is really benificial.

    -Your MP opening range is a tad wide id say. Look through HEM and see what hands your losing with and cut them out.

    -Flop and turn Cbet is nice and tight good work.

    -Flop raise Cbet is too low. Look for spot to raise cbet IP(especially when deep) as a bluff.

    -3bet on the button seems a bit low relative to your 3bet stat. Look for more spots to 3bet OTB vs MP and CO openers.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roszzz
    I'd fold pre but then again I fold way too much probably
    indeed

    @ dunna, OTT its just a XF. A lot of his range is Ax. Betting the turn will only fold out worse hands(he never has QQ or KK here), XC is a recipe for disaster since you don't know what he will do with any part of his range OTR(besides Ax which he will be betting all the time).

    As for pre, i'm fine with calling but if you have reads that make 4betting fine then go ahead.
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    08-05-2013 , 08:44 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roszzz
    I'd fold pre but then again I fold way too much probably
    lol i hope this is a level
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    08-05-2013 , 08:45 PM
    Pat/Break/Bink

    Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit 2-7 Triple Draw Lowball - 6 players
    DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

    Pre Draw: (1.5 SB) Hero is BTN with Q 5 4 3 2
    UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls

    First Draw: (6 SB) (3 players)
    SB draws 2, BB draws 2, Hero draws 1
    Hand: 9 5 4 3 2
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds

    Second Draw: (4 BB) (2 players)
    SB draws 1, Hero stands pat
    Hand: 9 5 4 3 2
    SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero calls

    Third Draw: (8 BB) (2 players)
    SB stands pat, Hero draws 1
    Hand: 7 5 4 3 2
    SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls

    Spoiler:
    Final Pot: 12 BB
    Hero shows 7s 5c 4d 3h 2d (Lo: 7,5,4,3,2)
    SB mucks 8d 6c 5s 3s 2c
    Hero wins 11.688 BB
    (Rake: $1.25)
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    08-06-2013 , 02:02 AM
    In for August

    July Goals

    [X ] 70 k hands of PLO/NLHE
    [X ] get 40 Buy ins for 10nl( For a few k hands)
    [X ] 24 tabling 10nl( For a few k hands)

    August Goals
    [ ] Get back to 24 tabling 10nl
    [ ] Get 40 BI's for 10nl and KEEP THEM
    [ ] No more degen 24 tabling PLO 6 mx or degening at PLO100
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    08-06-2013 , 03:29 AM
    Was 4 tabling last night, I ended up down on every table...
    The tables were pretty aggro - lot more post flop raising than usual.
    When playing against aggro players, we call lighter right? Well it didn't work out, and reviewing that hand I think wtf was I doing?

    1. Probably worst hand reading mistake all night. Have cut out a lot of calling river raises, but messed up here because villain was aggro I figured he'd do it with worse.

    iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: $9.37 (VPIP: 17.31, PFR: 13.46, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
    Hero (SB): $4.50
    BB: $6.17 (VPIP: 70.21, PFR: 14.89, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 48)
    CO: $1.52 (VPIP: 14.89, PFR: 12.77, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 48)

    Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has T T

    fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.12, BB calls $0.08

    Flop: ($0.24, 2 players) 5 8 8
    Hero bets $0.16, BB calls $0.16

    Turn: ($0.56, 2 players) 9
    Hero bets $0.32, BB calls $0.32

    River: ($1.20, 2 players) 4
    Hero bets $0.84, BB raises to $1.68, Hero calls $0.84

    Spoiler:
    Hero mucks T T (Two Pair, Tens and Eights) (Pre 71%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
    BB shows 8 J (Three of a Kind, Eights) (Pre 29%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
    BB wins $4.26


    2. Steal & cbet that went wrong. I put him on a weak ace or Qx when he called flop and checked turn. In hindsight I suppose a flush that hit would play it like this, or even AT.

    iPoker - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (BTN): $10.40
    SB: $10.33 (VPIP: 17.78, PFR: 8.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)
    BB: $15.15 (VPIP: 15.49, PFR: 12.68, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 73)
    UTG: $10.38 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 45)
    CO: $7.66 (VPIP: 29.55, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)

    SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has T Q

    fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, BB calls $0.20

    Flop: ($0.65, 2 players) A 4 Q
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.32, BB calls $0.32

    Turn: ($1.29, 2 players) 8
    BB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($1.29, 2 players) T
    BB bets $1.11, Hero calls $1.11

    Spoiler:
    Hero mucks T Q (Two Pair, Queens and Tens) (Pre 46%, Flop 92%, Turn 20%)
    BB shows 8 8 (Three of a Kind, Eights) (Pre 54%, Flop 8%, Turn 80%)
    BB wins $3.28
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    08-06-2013 , 03:43 AM
    Hand 1: I think river is an easy fold. Would probably go for check/call here myself if I think villain is aggro, which means he's quite likely to bet most of his calling range and a bunch of bluffs when checked to.

    Hand 2: I think sizing says he's got it on the river. You hardly ever have the best hand here. His turn check means nothing as you still had the initiative and he might very well have been aiming for a c/r.
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    08-06-2013 , 04:24 AM
    H1: wp except the river is a b/f
    H2: bet turn too if villain floats a lot you have quite a lot of equity plus you are IP
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    08-06-2013 , 04:25 AM
    Yes, I think you are right in both cases, that's why I picked them out while reviewing because I made the wrong decision I think.
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    08-06-2013 , 04:33 AM
    H2, don't bet turn, no value unless it's as a bluff
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