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08-01-2013 , 08:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cahartattack
[X ] Keep a positive C win when all in. (Mainly don't make calls for hands when I am behind) - Like I said my C all in was +175 so I feel pretty good about that
I'm not quite sure what you mean with 'C', but if it is the same as the EV line, then it doesn't say anything about whether you got your money in good or not.
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08-01-2013 , 08:13 PM
quadas I could be mistaken but I thought the stat was net won currency adjusted by All in equity so I thought that meant whether you got it in good or not. If not then I guess I have to disregard that.
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08-01-2013 , 08:15 PM
Might not get much volume in this month, I just realised Runescape released an old-school version from 2007 so I'm currently maxing out on nostalgia.
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08-01-2013 , 08:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cahartattack
quadas I could be mistaken but I thought the stat was net won currency adjusted by All in equity so I thought that meant whether you got it in good or not. If not then I guess I have to disregard that.
If you win any all in where you have less than 100% equity at the time the money goes in, then you are running above ev. If you lose any all in where you had more than 0% equity, then you are running below ev. It does not matter how much equity you had, you are still above or below depending on if you won the hand or not.

If you for example get it in pre 100bb deep with AA vs KK 5 times and win them all, then you are 2BI above ev, even though you obviously got your money in good every time.
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08-01-2013 , 08:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TDA2
Might not get much volume in this month, I just realised Runescape released an old-school version from 2007 so I'm currently maxing out on nostalgia.
2007 old-school nostalgia...
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08-01-2013 , 08:36 PM
A few hands from the last week of July


This converter is going to be a cash cow...
PokerStars Limit Triple Draw $30/$60 - 6 players

BB: $1,227.00
UTG: $1,081.35
UTG+1: $3,422.89
CO: $1,874.45
Button: $855.00 (Hero)
SB: $1,438.27

Dealing Hands: ($45.00) (6 players)
UTG raises to $60, UTG+1 folds, CO calls $60, Hero calls $60, 2 folds

First Draw: ($225.00) (3 players)
UTG stands, CO discards 2, Hero discards 2,
||
UTG bets $30, CO calls $30, Hero calls $30

Second Draw: ($315.00) (3 players)
UTG stands, CO discards 1, Hero discards 2,
||
UTG bets $60, CO raises to $120, Hero calls $120, UTG calls $60

Third Draw: ($675.00) (3 players)
UTG discards 1, CO stands, Hero stands,

UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks

UTG showed , Lo: Q,7,5,3,2
CO showed , Lo: 9,6,5,4,2
Hero showed , Lo: 8,7,5,3,2
Hero won $672
(Rake: $3)


Moooooooooooraaawwwr.
PokerStars Limit Triple Draw $30/$60 - 6 players

UTG+1: $1,140.00
CO: $1,769.85
Button: $3,177.00
SB: $2,831.45
BB: $898.50 (Hero)
UTG: $790.27

Dealing Hands: ($45.00) (6 players)
4 folds, SB raises to $60, Hero raises to $90, SB raises to $120, Hero calls $30

First Draw: ($255.00) (2 players)
SB discards 1, Hero discards 1,
||
SB checks, Hero bets $30, SB calls $30

Second Draw: ($315.00) (2 players)
SB discards 1, Hero stands,

SB checks, Hero bets $60, SB raises to $120, Hero raises to $180, SB calls $60

Third Draw: ($675.00) (2 players)
SB stands, Hero stands,

SB checks, Hero bets $60, SB calls $60

SB mucked
Hero showed , Lo: 7,6,5,4,2
Hero won $777
(Rake: $3)


Milked from the teat of a feral cow
PokerStars Limit Triple Draw $30/$60 - 6 players

UTG+1: $1,962.90
CO: $889.50
Button: $3,535.05
SB: $2,072.90
BB: $1,560.53 (Hero)
UTG: $456.44

Dealing Hands: ($45.00) (6 players)
3 folds, Button raises to $60, SB calls $45, Hero calls $30

First Draw: ($180.00) (3 players)
SB discards 3, Hero discards 2, Button discards 3,
||
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $30, SB calls $30, Hero calls $30

Second Draw: ($270.00) (3 players)
SB discards 3, Hero discards 2, Button discards 1,
||
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $60, SB raises to $120, Hero raises to $180, Button calls $120, SB calls $60

Third Draw: ($810.00) (3 players)
SB discards 1, Hero stands, Button discards 1,

SB checks, Hero bets $60, 2 folds

Hero collected $807

(Rake: $3)


Feral Cow Poker
PokerStars Limit Triple Draw $30/$60 - 6 players

BB: $3,928.50
UTG: $4,571.55
UTG+1: $3,491.55
CO: $1,967.45
Button: $2,157.23 (Hero)
SB: $825.30

Dealing Hands: ($45.00) (6 players)
2 folds, CO raises to $60, Hero calls $60, SB folds, BB calls $30

First Draw: ($195.00) (3 players)
BB discards 2, CO discards 3, Hero discards 2,
||
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $30, BB calls $30, CO calls $30

Second Draw: ($285.00) (3 players)
BB discards 2, CO discards 2, Hero discards 1,
||
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $60, BB calls $60, CO calls $60

Third Draw: ($465.00) (3 players)
BB discards 1, CO discards 1, Hero stands,

BB checks, CO bets $60, Hero raises to $120, 2 folds

Hero collected $582

(Rake: $3)


This converter is going to be a cash cow...
PokerStars Limit Triple Draw $30/$60 - 5 players

SB: $2,501.70
BB: $4,526.65
UTG: $1,788.00
CO: $2,130.68 (Hero)
Button: $3,237.75

Dealing Hands: ($45.00) (5 players)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $60, Button folds, SB raises to $90, BB calls $60, Hero raises to $120, SB calls $30, BB calls $30

First Draw: ($360.00) (3 players)
SB discards 1, BB discards 2, Hero discards 1,
||
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $30, SB raises to $60, BB calls $60, Hero raises to $90, SB raises to $120, BB calls $60, Hero calls $30

Second Draw: ($720.00) (3 players)
SB stands, BB discards 2, Hero discards 1,
||
SB bets $60, BB folds, Hero calls $60

Third Draw: ($840.00) (2 players)
SB stands, Hero discards 1,
||
SB checks, Hero checks

SB showed , Lo: 9,7,6,5,3
Hero showed , Lo: 8,7,6,3,2
Hero won $837
(Rake: $3)



Boom RF !


Poker Stars $10/$20 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 4 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BTN with 2 T Q J
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, Marcel Luske calls

Flop: (4.5 SB) T 2 A (2 players)
Marcel Luske checks, Hero bets, Marcel Luske raises, Hero calls

Turn: (4.25 BB) A (2 players)
Marcel Luske bets, Hero calls

River: (6.25 BB) K (2 players)
Marcel Luske bets, Hero raises, Marcel Luske calls

Final Pot: 10.25 BB
Marcel Luske mucks 3 5 9 6
Hero shows 2 T Q J (HI: a Royal Flush)
Hero wins 10.15 BB
(Rake: $2.00)

Last edited by AlienSpaceBat; 08-01-2013 at 08:42 PM.
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08-01-2013 , 09:35 PM



    Poker Stars, $2.50/$5 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18705241

    BTN: $898.46 (179.7 bb)
    SB: $187.19 (37.4 bb)
    BB: $211.50 (42.3 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $624.32 (124.9 bb)
    MP: $1,018.03 (203.6 bb)
    CO: $32.78 (6.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with J A
    Hero raises to $12.50, MP folds, CO raises to $32.78 and is all-in, BTN folds, SB raises to $75, BB folds, Hero raises to $624.32 and is all-in, SB calls $112.19 and is all-in

    Flop: ($412.16) 7 2 8 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
    Turn: ($412.16) 9 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
    River: ($412.16) T (3 players, 3 are all-in)

    Results: $412.16 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 7 2 8 9 T
    SB showed K A and lost (-$187.19 net)
    Hero showed J A and won $409.36 ($222.17 net)
    CO showed A 2 and lost (-$32.78 net)



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    08-01-2013 , 09:42 PM
    luckbox
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    08-01-2013 , 10:24 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by A.Ertbjerg
    luckbox
    yeah well, that's just, like, your opinion, man ...
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    08-02-2013 , 07:07 AM
    ↑↑ luckbox

    Some hands from yesterday's session:

    1) Might have misplayed this one in two spots. Is this a flop I want to cbet bvb? Does he have anything in his river range that I beat??

    PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: $1.82
    Hero (SB): $2.11
    BB: $1.38 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
    UTG: $1.87 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
    MP: $1.97
    CO: $0.81 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)

    Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 8 T

    fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.06, BB calls $0.04

    Flop: ($0.12, 2 players) 4 4 6
    Hero bets $0.07, BB calls $0.07

    Turn: ($0.26, 2 players) 8
    Hero bets $0.16, BB calls $0.16

    River: ($0.58, 2 players) T
    Hero checks, BB bets $0.42, Hero calls $0.42


    2) Do you bet turn? What to do on the river?

    PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: $0.91 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
    SB: $1.99 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
    Hero (BB): $3.17
    UTG: $1.48 (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
    MP: $2.04 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
    CO: $2.51 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 18.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)

    SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has A A

    fold, fold, CO calls $0.02, BTN calls $0.02, fold, Hero raises to $0.10, CO calls $0.08, BTN calls $0.08

    Flop: ($0.31, 3 players) 8 T 2
    Hero bets $0.22, CO calls $0.22, BTN calls $0.22

    Turn: ($0.97, 3 players) A
    Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

    River: ($0.97, 3 players) J
    Hero bets $0.40, CO raises to $0.84, fold, Hero ??


    3) His stack to pot ratio was really low and I adjusted bet sizing to drag him along and get the stack in by the river. Is this a good idea or should I bet bigger to get him in on the turn?

    PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (BTN): $2.00
    SB: $1.42
    BB: $2.00
    UTG: $1.04 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
    MP: $2.00 (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
    CO: $4.02 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)

    SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K K

    fold, MP raises to $0.06, fold, Hero raises to $0.18, SB calls $0.17, fold, fold

    Flop: ($0.44, 2 players) 3 2 6
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.16, SB calls $0.16

    Turn: ($0.76, 2 players) 6
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.35, SB calls $0.35

    River: ($1.46, 2 players) Q
    SB bets $0.73 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.73


    4) This one just for fun, I like the river action!

    PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: $2.36 (VPIP: 22.58, PFR: 16.13, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
    SB: $3.50 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
    Hero (BB): $2.00
    UTG: $2.02
    MP: $2.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
    CO: $2.85 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

    SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 5 4

    fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

    Flop: ($0.04, 2 players) 6 J Q
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($0.04, 2 players) 2
    SB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($0.04, 2 players) 3
    SB bets $0.18, Hero raises to $0.59, SB calls $0.41

    Hero shows 5 4 (Straight, Six High) (Pre 43%, Flop 6%, Turn 9%)
    SB mucks 2 J (Two Pair, Jacks and Twos) (Pre 57%, Flop 94%, Turn 91%)
    Hero wins $1.18
    August Beginner's Bankroll Thread Quote
    08-02-2013 , 07:43 AM
    quadas:
    1. Not sure about flop cbet but I would bet turn and river. Why check/call river?
    2. Hell yeah I bet turn! Why would you not? Your pair has improved to top set. You have the best hand. Or you could let those flush and straight draws have a free card to make their hand!
    3. I'd just 3/4 pot it on the flop, don't get tricky. Can't fold there though but he probably has a crappy A6 or something.
    4. Villain made a mess of that - serves him right
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    08-02-2013 , 08:25 AM
    stude:
    1. I can't see any hands in his range that I beat that would give me 3 streets of value. But all the draws brick, so there is always the possibility of him bluffing.
    2. Guess you are right there. I think while playing I was hoping for someone else to bet, as if that would ever happen when I hold all the aces...
    3. I think he had Q7
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    08-02-2013 , 08:31 AM
    @quadas:

    H1 is an easy b/b/b at 2NL. Would consider checking the flop higher up so my cbetting range isn't too air-heavy (and this is basically the bottom of our range here).

    H2: Bigger OTF, bet the turn, jam the river (if it's < pot), call as played, some 2NL players will do this with Ax and we're getting sick odds (expect to be behind ~50% of the time though IMO).

    H3: You need to decide on the flop whether you want to play 2 or 3 streets. In general, 2 streets is better for draw-heavy boards, 3 for dry ones. This board looks like a 2-street one. Bet ~0.36 on the flop, jam the turn.

    H4: Bet the flop when checked to, definitely bet the turn, as played jam the river, villains rarely fold any part of an overbetting range.
    August Beginner's Bankroll Thread Quote
    08-02-2013 , 06:25 PM
    August! So not excited to play right now back at 10NL. Going for some 4-tabling tomorrow and we'll see what it brings. Maby another shot at 25NL later this year, no real volume goals cause I won't achieve them anyways
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    08-02-2013 , 08:29 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TDA2
    @quadas:

    H1 is an easy b/b/b at 2NL. Would consider checking the flop higher up so my cbetting range isn't too air-heavy (and this is basically the bottom of our range here).
    It might be that I have brought too much nittiness from 25nl FR with me to 2nl 6-max, which I probably shouldn't. But I'm still a bit unsure how much more trigger happy would be optimal.

    Everybody says that these stakes are filled with calling stations that will call you down with anything, but that's not what I see in my database. I still don't have a very large sample obv. but so far nobody has ever called my trippel barrel at 2nl with tp or worse. All I've seen anyone call three barrels with are overpairs, trips and better. Then I looked through all hands where the action went cbet-call on three streets (bets big enough to create a pot size of $0,90 or more), including those that I wasn't involved in at all, and found the same trend there. In all hands I've played at this stake so far only one guy had ever called all the way with bottom pair, then there was a couple of hands where tptk called three barrels and the rest were overpair or better.

    So I guess my question is: if in 9000 hands it happens only once that someone calls three streets with worse than tptk, why should I believe that there is much value in betting the river in hand 1? I guess 99 could call there sometimes, but other than that I can't think of any hand that I beat.

    Just looking at how my opponents have been acting, it seems a lot people make horrible flop and turn calls, but on the river they don't put any more money in the pot unless they have a real hand or they are checked to so they can bluff their missed draws.
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    08-02-2013 , 09:07 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roszzz
    August! So not excited to play right now back at 10NL. Going for some 4-tabling tomorrow and we'll see what it brings. Maby another shot at 25NL later this year, no real volume goals cause I won't achieve them anyways

    Moving down sucks big time, but it's the right thing to do. Also, moving down would be a mental victory because you're succesfully following your BRM during a time in which it is hard to follow proper BRM (people often tend to either move down way too late or don't move down at all).

    The above might sound very optimistic and is probably not what you want to hear at this moment, but it is true imo.

    GL at the tables everyone! Hopefully you all run like jesus (except against me)!
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    08-03-2013 , 03:59 AM
    Is this an okay spot to re-iso?
    I was a bit put off when BB cold called.
    Can't see this flop being worth a cbet in 3 bet pot.
    His big overbet into two people?
    Should I have cbet flop?

    iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (SB): $4.09
    BB: $2.61 (VPIP: 42.11, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
    UTG: $4.15 (VPIP: 52.63, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
    CO: $4.92 (VPIP: 26.89, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 124)
    BTN: $6.00 (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 18.80, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 123)

    Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has Q A

    UTG calls $0.04, CO raises to $0.16, fold, Hero raises to $0.48, BB calls $0.44, fold, CO calls $0.32

    Flop: ($1.48, 3 players) 7 6 8
    Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks

    Turn: ($1.48, 3 players) 4
    Hero checks, BB bets $2.13, fold, fold

    Spoiler:
    BB wins $1.39


    Oh, and quadas, I had this fish today. Should have triple barrelled here.
    He was calling with any piece of the board.

    iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    UTG: $2.05 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
    MP: $5.42 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
    CO: $4.71 (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 124)
    Hero (BTN): $4.00
    SB: $4.26 (VPIP: 8.86, PFR: 5.06, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 81)
    BB: $1.52 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

    SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has A Q

    fold, MP raises to $0.12, fold, Hero calls $0.12, fold, BB calls $0.08

    Flop: ($0.38, 3 players) 3 A J
    BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.19, BB calls $0.19, fold

    Turn: ($0.76, 2 players) T
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.38, BB calls $0.38

    River: ($1.52, 2 players) 4
    BB checks, Hero checks

    Spoiler:
    Hero shows A Q (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 65%, Flop 82%, Turn 91%)
    BB shows J 9 (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 35%, Flop 18%, Turn 9%)
    Hero wins $1.42


    iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BB: $2.10 (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
    UTG: $5.15 (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
    MP: $4.77 (VPIP: 19.27, PFR: 12.84, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 114)
    Hero (CO): $4.16
    BTN: $4.30 (VPIP: 9.46, PFR: 5.41, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 76)
    SB: $1.23 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)

    SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has K Q

    fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.12, fold, SB calls $0.10, fold

    Flop: ($0.28, 2 players) 7 3 T
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($0.28, 2 players) A
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.19, SB calls $0.19

    River: ($0.66, 2 players) 8
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Spoiler:
    Hero mucks K Q (High Card, Ace) (Pre 64%, Flop 25%, Turn 23%)
    SB shows T 9 (One Pair, Tens) (Pre 36%, Flop 75%, Turn 77%)
    SB wins $0.62


    iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    MP: $4.76 (VPIP: 27.36, PFR: 17.92, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 111)
    CO: $5.09 (VPIP: 54.17, PFR: 29.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
    BTN: $5.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
    Hero (SB): $9.02
    BB: $4.18 (VPIP: 7.87, PFR: 4.49, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 91)
    UTG: $1.02 (VPIP: 58.33, PFR: 4.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)

    Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has 8 A

    UTG calls $0.04, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.12, fold, UTG calls $0.08

    Flop: ($0.28, 2 players) 8 T 2
    Hero bets $0.19, UTG calls $0.19

    Turn: ($0.66, 2 players) 9
    Hero checks, UTG checks

    River: ($0.66, 2 players) 9
    Hero checks, UTG checks

    Spoiler:
    Hero shows 8 A (Two Pair, Nines and Eights) (Pre 77%, Flop 93%, Turn 95%)
    UTG shows K 8 (Two Pair, Nines and Eights) (Pre 23%, Flop 7%, Turn 5%)
    Hero wins $0.62


    He did that all night - value town!
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    08-03-2013 , 04:12 AM
    always drooling at gamma's garphs.

    anyway, in for august, won't get much volume in though until after december, so mostly just reviewing hands and reading strat threads.

    july graph, first 7k hands were all 5nl, last 3k hands were all nl10 and up



    [ ]crushing 5nl
    [x]luckboxing nl10 and deep nl10 the last 3k hands

    Last edited by dillchips; 08-03-2013 at 04:22 AM. Reason: started table selecting at nl10
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    08-03-2013 , 04:36 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Studebaker Hawk
    Oh, and quadas, I had this fish today. Should have triple barrelled here.
    He was calling with any piece of the board.

    iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    UTG: $2.05 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
    MP: $5.42 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
    CO: $4.71 (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 124)
    Hero (BTN): $4.00
    SB: $4.26 (VPIP: 8.86, PFR: 5.06, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 81)
    BB: $1.52 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

    SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has A Q

    fold, MP raises to $0.12, fold, Hero calls $0.12, fold, BB calls $0.08

    Flop: ($0.38, 3 players) 3 A J
    BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.19, BB calls $0.19, fold

    Turn: ($0.76, 2 players) T
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.38, BB calls $0.38

    River: ($1.52, 2 players) 4
    BB checks, Hero checks

    Spoiler:
    Hero shows A Q (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 65%, Flop 82%, Turn 91%)
    BB shows J 9 (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 35%, Flop 18%, Turn 9%)
    Hero wins $1.42
    Why do you think he was calling with any piece of the board? Because you had seen him do it all night long or because he called two streets with second pair? If you don't have a read on him that he will call three streets with second pair or worse, then a third barrel there would be a bluff, not for value. The only hands you beat are second/third pairs, A9 or worse and KK or QQ which might not want to lay their hands down because "I haz dem kings and deserve to win!" Basically all of them are bluff catchers on this board.

    I'd bet more on flop and turn and check river. But maybe I should add that my observations are based on Zoom, which tends to be nittier than other tables, so perhaps there is a different dynamic where you are playing.

    Other than that:

    Hand 1 is fine imo.

    Hand 3 I'd cbet the flop (but I am currently in the process of trying to figure out how to get my flop cbet stat down to reasonable levels... perhaps this is one of them flops I shouldn't cbet).

    Hand 4, I was gonna say bet turn, but then I noticed he only had a pot sized bet behind. I guess you could shove and you would always have some equity when called, but I would never expect to be ahead when that happens, so probably would check and hate it if he shoves.
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    08-03-2013 , 05:38 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by quadas
    Why do you think he was calling with any piece of the board? Because you had seen him do it all night long or because he called two streets with second pair?
    I only posted hands I was involved with, he was doing it all night long.
    Although never more than two streets because somebody usually checked at some point.
    Nevertheless, he wasn't put off by overcards or low kickers e.g. he raised once which was J9o on a 7QJ6K board he raised a river bet after it had been checked to river.
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    08-03-2013 , 06:10 AM
    Yeah, if it's checked to the river you can see some pretty weird plays. I guess he was thinking along the lines of "I bet his bluffing so I'm gonna raise!", which obviously is as bad as it can be.

    In your hand, that's a very typical play that he calls flop with any piece of the board and calls turn when he hits a flush draw in addition to the pair. But I would not expect the average 2nl player to call a 3rd street when the flush misses.
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    08-03-2013 , 07:25 AM
    I really hate not being able to see my session under a day later since all of my volume is on Bovada right now. Lost something like 200 though in a really long session, games were so juicy though, i don't care. I shall run better next time at $4/8
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    08-03-2013 , 12:00 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Studebaker Hawk
    Is this an okay spot to re-iso?
    I was a bit put off when BB cold called.
    Can't see this flop being worth a cbet in 3 bet pot.
    His big overbet into two people?
    Should I have cbet flop?

    iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (SB): $4.09
    BB: $2.61 (VPIP: 42.11, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
    UTG: $4.15 (VPIP: 52.63, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
    CO: $4.92 (VPIP: 26.89, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 124)
    BTN: $6.00 (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 18.80, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 123)

    Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has Q A

    UTG calls $0.04, CO raises to $0.16, fold, Hero raises to $0.48, BB calls $0.44, fold, CO calls $0.32

    Flop: ($1.48, 3 players) 7 6 8
    Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks

    Turn: ($1.48, 3 players) 4
    Hero checks, BB bets $2.13, fold, fold

    Spoiler:
    BB wins $1.39


    Oh, and quadas, I had this fish today. Should have triple barrelled here.
    He was calling with any piece of the board.

    iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    UTG: $2.05 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
    MP: $5.42 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
    CO: $4.71 (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 124)
    Hero (BTN): $4.00
    SB: $4.26 (VPIP: 8.86, PFR: 5.06, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 81)
    BB: $1.52 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

    SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has A Q

    fold, MP raises to $0.12, fold, Hero calls $0.12, fold, BB calls $0.08

    Flop: ($0.38, 3 players) 3 A J
    BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.19, BB calls $0.19, fold

    Turn: ($0.76, 2 players) T
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.38, BB calls $0.38

    River: ($1.52, 2 players) 4
    BB checks, Hero checks

    Spoiler:
    Hero shows A Q (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 65%, Flop 82%, Turn 91%)
    BB shows J 9 (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 35%, Flop 18%, Turn 9%)
    Hero wins $1.42
    h1: i 3b isolate a lot in 5nl. Usually it's like bet 0.15 call 0.15 iso 0.60. I sometimes do it as low as AJ, but AQ is definitely on my list, especially if btn bet and SB called. you could just call to keep the fish in. checking flop is fine.
    h2: i'd pot every street vs fish. more on the flop imo.
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    08-03-2013 , 12:09 PM
    Stude:

    H1 I'd make the 3b a little bigger but everything else looks good.
    H2 3b pre, bigger on flop and turn, bet the river small.
    H3, H4 are fine, I'd possibly vbet river in H4.
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    08-03-2013 , 12:14 PM
    hey guys, need a quick checkup on a few spots:

    H1: GII flop? No specific reads vs guy.

    PokerStars - $0.10 Ante $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: $10.19 (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
    Hero (SB): $26.38
    BB: $26.57 (VPIP: 16.16, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 105)

    Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10, 3 players post ante of $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.21) Hero has 8 8

    BTN raises to $0.25, Hero calls $0.20, BB calls $0.15

    Flop: ($0.81, 3 players) 7 J 8
    Hero bets $0.60, fold, BTN raises to $2.05

    H2: go for thicker value on river?

    PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BB: $4.00
    UTG: $10.96 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
    Hero (MP): $11.05
    CO: $10.56 (VPIP: 23.68, PFR: 23.68, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 40)
    BTN: $3.95 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
    SB: $11.22 (VPIP: 5.56, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)

    SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K Q

    UTG raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, fold, BTN calls $0.30, fold, fold

    Flop: ($1.05, 3 players) 6 3 Q
    UTG bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50

    Turn: ($2.55, 3 players) K
    UTG checks, Hero bets $1.75, fold, UTG calls $1.75

    River: ($6.05, 2 players) 2
    UTG checks, Hero bets $2.80

    H3: Anyone folding to river raise?

    PokerStars - €0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (SB): €11.20
    BB: €12.53 (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
    UTG: €3.55 (VPIP: 43.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
    CO: €7.11 (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 18.62, 3Bet Preflop: 4.26, Hands: 147)
    BTN: €1.35 (VPIP: 38.10, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)

    Hero posts SB €0.05, BB posts BB €0.10

    Pre Flop: (pot: €0.15) Hero has Q K

    UTG calls €0.10, fold, BTN calls €0.10, Hero raises to €0.40, BB calls €0.30, UTG calls €0.30, BTN calls €0.30

    Flop: (€1.60, 4 players) 4 6 Q
    Hero bets €1.00, BB calls €1.00, fold, fold

    Turn: (€3.60, 2 players) Q
    Hero bets €1.50, BB calls €1.50

    River: (€6.60, 2 players) 9
    Hero bets €2.80, BB raises to €6.30

    H4: is line okay?

    PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    CO: $11.26 (VPIP: 20.29, PFR: 17.87, 3Bet Preflop: 8.96, Hands: 212)
    BTN: $10.43 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
    Hero (SB): $16.93
    BB: $13.17 (VPIP: 31.08, PFR: 22.97, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 76)

    Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J J

    fold, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, BTN calls $0.70

    Flop: ($2.10, 2 players) 9 7 5
    Hero bets $1.50, BTN calls $1.50

    Turn: ($5.10, 2 players) A
    Hero bets $1.80, BTN calls $1.80

    River: ($8.70, 2 players) 6
    Hero checks, BTN bets $3.10, fold
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