i think the preflop play was standard. i re raised him on the flop to find out where my hand stands. i got one call and he pushed on the turn. i guess i could have folded JJ considering he cold called on the flop. was this a easy lay down or did i over value my jacks?

Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (MP2): $1.92
CO: $1.87
BTN: $0.50
SB: $1.15
BB: $4.09
UTG: $2.27
UTG+1: $4.37
MP1: $7.97

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP2 with J J
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, SB calls $0.09, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.42) 3 5 3 (4 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.30, CO folds, SB calls $0.30, MP1 folds

Turn: ($1.12) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $0.75 all in, Hero calls $0.75

River: ($2.62) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)


Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (MP2): $1.92
CO: $1.87
BTN: $0.50
SB: $1.15
BB: $4.09
UTG: $2.27
UTG+1: $4.37
MP1: $7.97

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP2 with J J
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, SB calls $0.09, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.42) 3 5 3 (4 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.30, CO folds, SB calls $0.30, MP1 folds

Turn: ($1.12) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $0.75 all in, Hero calls $0.75

River: ($2.62) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

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Yes, you played the hand fine, standard cooler.

You should post this in the "micro stakes full ring" forum.

Also, it's best if you don't post results. Just post it with the title "2NL: facing turn shove with JJ on low paired board" or something like that. Don't let anyone know the villain had AA, it will taint the responses.

People will tell you that "Raising for information" is never a good idea. So you raised him and he called, what info did you gain by raising? What would you have done if he shoved over your raise?

I don't think raising is necessarily bad here, I'm just saying you were raising for the wrong reason if it was "to see where your hand is at".


You might want to consider raising more PF since there are so many people to act behind you.

I'm concerned by the SB calling PF, checking/calling the flop, and then shoving on the turn. I'd be putting him more on something like 77 - he called with the overpair, and then made a set... But it's more likely that he'd slowplay that.

He probably had a boat (or quads), I don't think you can really fold JJ here. If we were deepstacked with 250bbs each, then it would probably be a fold. But here it's only 32bbs more, which isn't even a pot sized bet.

its NL2, without read Im getting it in.
I'd expect him to check 46, 77, 55 and 3x, he can safely assume that you are going to bet again and NL2 players just love to slowplay
That leaves 75, 66 (66 imho fits the most-villain thought he has nuts, just called flop, so you can catch something and then realized, how easily he can be beat, I may underestimate typical NL2 villain though) and 88+. You've got 75 beat. That leaves 48 combinations of PPs that you beat and 36 combinations that beat you. Plus: Villain called preflop, folding because of possibility of QQ+ without read is -EV. Just take a note on him.

Note: I am novice, I may be/probably am wrong. If i made mistake somewhere, please dont keep it for yourself.

easy call here, you played it fine. Although im probably betting .40 for the reraise.

His slowplaying aces is bad move. Half the time he calls and raises on the flop people are gonna fold whereas they would've called a raise preflop

I think the first hand is played fine but the second not so much. In the second I would have c-bet. At that point you have to think you have the best hand. If he re-pops you (depending on reads) you can fold as an A rag 3or 5 is in his range as well as 33 55. With no raise PF no reason to think he has a bigger hole pair. As said the slow play AA by the villian was a horrible play, good way to lose a stack.

Against a half stack on a low board I'm trying to get the money in all day every day at NL2.

If it were me in the hand, I'd be raising more preflop, and on the flop.

Like raising to 15cents preflop, and potting the flop.

wat?

+1... should've learned something the first time

standard cooler.... and i for think you played the 2nd hand as well as the first hand.

overs is a lot dependent against villain. against a super tight you can be assured you're playing against another overpair or a set. depending on how high your pair is over the board it's just a numbers game.

But with the pre flop action is both these hands, very standard.